Yes?

[Fonkey123]

Villains first orbit at the table. I usually donk flop, but if I don't this is the line I should take?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $98.50
CO: $100
BTN: $361.40
SB: $147.40
BB: $289.25
UTG: $99

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls $9.50

Flop: ($30.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($30.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($30.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, \

[Upgrade_U]

you should make like a 1/2 pot turn lead, even with the ace being a scare card you should still bet it and go for value on the riv

[Nielsio]

Donking the flop is terrible.

I'm bombing the turn and river.

[Learning]

Yeah you need to check the flop since he'll fire the majority of his assumed/standard 3bet range (TT+, AQ+).

I like a turn lead of about $22 since I think an A is a large part of his range and you're likely to get called.

[pureklas]

No. Bet the flop. If you dont then bet the turn. You go for a check raise on that board it screams set. You bet the turn big and villain calls with AK/AQ and then you make a decent bet on the river.

[Nielsio]

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No. Bet the flop. If you dont then bet the turn. You go for a check raise on that board it screams set. You bet the turn big and villain calls with AK/AQ and then you make a decent bet on the river.

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Losing value from CB/semibluffs on the flop because you think people will fold an overpair = lol.

[pureklas]

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No. Bet the flop. If you dont then bet the turn. You go for a check raise on that board it screams set. You bet the turn big and villain calls with AK/AQ and then you make a decent bet on the river.

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Losing value from CB/semibluffs on the flop because you think people will fold an overpair = lol.

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I was talking about going for a turn check raise. I never said anything about folding an overpair on the flop.

[Nielsio]

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No. Bet the flop. If you dont then bet the turn. You go for a check raise on that board it screams set. You bet the turn big and villain calls with AK/AQ and then you make a decent bet on the river.

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Losing value from CB/semibluffs on the flop because you think people will fold an overpair = lol.

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I was talking about going for a turn check raise. I never said anything about folding an overpair on the flop.

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Ok, I agree turn bet &gt; turn c/r.

However, you still said bet the flop, which is bad.

[pureklas]

My thinking was bet flop over pair + AKd will 3bet

[SABR42]

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You go for a check raise on that board it screams set.

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WTF?