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Old 06-24-2007, 08:34 PM
TarHeel100 TarHeel100 is offline
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Default Reverse Implied Odds

Trying to figure out if this is a situation where I have Reverse Implied Odds and should let it go.....

MP2 has TAGish stats.....roughly 15/7/5 over a small sample size......

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero.........

Is it worth it to call this down?
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:57 PM
SLAP_tuary SLAP_tuary is offline
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

let it go.
and yes, I'd say it's an RIO situation

When you don't 3-bet preflop, you have to take the info you're given on the flop
It could get expensive to see the turn, much less the river, with few good cards in deck, if any,
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

calling down is your worst option.

fold &gt; 3bet &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; call.

and yes, i think this is a legitimate RIO situation.
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:34 PM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

[ QUOTE ]
calling down is your worst option.

fold &gt; 3bet &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; call.


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Somebody always posts this rubbish but I didn't think it'd be you [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:43 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

you don't like the &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;, or you don't like folding, or what?
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

He doesn't like the raise or fold mentality. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

with MP2's stats I'd actually let it go pf, AJs is not a 3betting hand, even with postion. The flop is ugly, even with TPGK. MP2's raise screams "I have a better hand than you". Listen when the man tells you that your cards are no goot.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:26 PM
KaatzMeow KaatzMeow is offline
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

A bad players question?

Hero has TPGK. Why fold? Because it will cost you many bets and pot is small?

What would both Villains have, maybe trip kings? I guess I am a poor player since I would bet my TP...see what happens on the Turn.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Reverse Implied Odds

RIO in a nutshell means we are so likely to get outdrawn, in this case by the flush, and it is going to be so expensive to get to a show down that we are better off folding.

Yes, flushes don't always happen but we aren't going to win enough when it doesn't to make up for the times it does, besides the fact that we could be drawing nearly dead already.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:38 PM
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Super, so we are folding because we won't win enough bets the time TP holds up to make up for the times we lose to the flush since it will take many bets just to get to SD...Thanks, makes sense to me...I will try to apply this which should help me save bets.

Light bulb goes off [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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