quick poll, if you would be so kind.

[Unknown Soldier]

600nl.

Action is folded to you in co, and you make it $21 with AQ.

An unknown 22/17 (over decent datamined sample, 1st orbit of the table) 3b to $72 on the button.

It is folded back to you.

[MatthewRyan]

1-3 depending, never 4

[Unknown Soldier]

depending on what? he's completely unknown, 1st orbit, no history. This won't depends on anything, just what you think the best line is in a vacuum.

[blankoblanco]

only piece of clarification i'd like: are we assuming that there's no way he's datamined us or is at all familiar with how we play?

[Unknown Soldier]

no way of us knowing i guess. Pretend you're 27/22, he probably will know that.

[jfish]

depends how im feeling, standard is fold i guess. i definitely do all 4 with some frequency.

[BobboFitos]

Im kinda shocked that many people just fold. I normally call and play a 3bet pot.

[JEFF or DAD]

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Im kinda shocked that many people just fold.

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prob prevents most ppl from mistakes, but then again, most ppl suck

[blankoblanco]

yeah, because "good" players i'm sure just love playing huge pots with AQ oop when they have no reads whatsoever. those majority of times you whiff the flop, are you going to float/donk/raise his cbet and just pray he doesn't have it, when you don't know a thing about how he plays? or give up every time you miss and bleed money? either way you're stabbing in the dark at a disadvantage, has little to do with sucking or being good IMO

[BobboFitos]

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yeah, because "good" players i'm sure just love playing huge pots with AQ oop

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yeah, i do when they are 3betting 10% of their hands (OR MORE, those damn [censored]).

for what it's worth, if someone is 3betting only 5% or so, id stick to AK. 10%, AQ. 15%, AJ. 20%, AT. And so on... sometimes yuo look stupid, but thats poker.

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those majority of times you whiff the flop, are you going to float/donk/raise his cbet and just pray he doesn't have it, when you don't know a thing about how he plays? or give up every time you miss and bleed money?

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why is giving up bleeding money? Even if you dont insert any fanciness (which I do) you're hardly losing by check folding real bad flops. just chalking the pot to the aggressor who happens to have position, and although preflop you had a good hand, postflop it's also not such a good hand. When you go 0-3 in those situations, you tend to not win the pot, and thats ok with me. It's how you do in 1-2 and 2-1 scenarios that count.

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either way you're stabbing in the dark at a disadvantage, has little to do with sucking or being good IMO

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I dont think this is true at all