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Home poker cheating - how common is it?
So in my regular weekly game we found we have a cheat (he was palming chips while raking pots for other people) and he has since been kicked out and not invited back?
So my question is how common is cheating in everyone elses experiences and what steps do you take to guard against it. |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
I haven't played with him, but apparenlty there is a guy who verbalizes a bet then tries to throw in few chips and palms chips. Not sure if he'll be invited back. Seems as if they like him but have to watch him very closely. I hope I never play with him so I don't have to deal with it. Pretty pathetic, IMHO.
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
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Seems as if they like him but have to watch him very closely. [/ QUOTE ] This seems pretty pathetic to me... on the part of the hosts/enablers |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
define cheating...
we've had people that have come up borderline, and been warned, but as far as common cheating goes, i guess we haven't, or at least caught someone.. |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
I've come across serious cheating in both home and casino games. I assume it is rife on the internet; I know a lot of people who have convinced themselves that they must collude to even the playing field against the other colluders.
'Mild' cheating is absolutely rife. I'd include in this the player/dealer glimpsing a player's cards as he collects the muck, masking high value chips; sitting low in the chair to glimpse high-dealt cards, peeking at insufficiently protected live hands etc. It's all part of the game, but regrettable nonetheless. |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
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peeking at insufficiently protected live hands [/ QUOTE ] not really cheating imo |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
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I haven't played with him, but apparenlty there is a guy who verbalizes a bet then tries to throw in few chips and palms chips. Not sure if he'll be invited back. Seems as if they like him but have to watch him very closely. I hope I never play with him so I don't have to deal with it. Pretty pathetic, IMHO. [/ QUOTE ] This is easily prevented if you don't allow players to splash the pot. Explain the rule / guideline to everyone with the caveat that if they do it and the amount they say they put in cannot be immediately identified (this means no counting out the pot and trying to recreate all the betting) then they will need to put out the bet again. Period. No exceptions AS for palming from pots why does any player but the dealer touch the pot? Or is this happening when the player deals? |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
^I don't see how only the dealer can be the one to touch the pot.
Lets say your playing at a standard 10 man ovalish table. It's a home game, so rotating deal. Dealer is at the end of the table, winner of the pot is at the other end, how does dealer push the pot to him? |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
We play on a 10-man oval with rotating deal, and different people push the pots and the cards to keep things moving. Otherwise, it would take forever.
We do have a rule about splashing, but it's not always obeyed. I'm not the host, but I can see how it's tough to be strict in a relaxed, fun home game. The host tries, and so does everyone else, but people screw up. As I said, I've never played with this guy, and as far as I know, they haven't invited him back. We'll see. Pathetic to steal a few dollars here and there from a friendly home game (or from any game or any part of life). People who do must be really desperate or really sick. |
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Re: Home poker cheating - how common is it?
We've got a group of friends / family - not native English speakers, and they sometimes chat in their language at the table. Some people I know take this to be collusion / table coaching, but I don't think they'd be that stupid.
That's as close to cheating as I've seen in a home game. |
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