200: Situation PF

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Here's a little scenario I'd like to hear some thoughts on:

I'm otb with KK and $180

UTG opens for $8. He's short starting with $79.

+2 is why I'm at the table. He's deep, extremely loose and quite passive and cals.

The Co is a tighty and calls

What's your raise size and why?

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Is this live or online? Live, I would think probably $50. Online, I'd make it $38.

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

[RyanCMU]

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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Ahh just saw that this was online.... My above post is kinda void then hahah...

Our goal should be to make a sizeable enough reraise that UTG will push over top... This also is a possitive is UTG doesnt come over the top for their remaining stack but we get the terrible player to call a large reraise which will allow us to get the stacks in easier postflop vs them.

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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my default RR is 3x IP, I add 1x per coldcaller, so something around 40

[CalledDownLight]

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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It allows you to shove over UTG's AI if thats what he does and isolate him with dead money vs. anyone that just coldcalls. It's also just a little under pot so its not an overbet or anything.

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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It allows you to shove over UTG's AI if thats what he does and isolate him with dead money vs. anyone that just coldcalls. It's also just a little under pot so its not an overbet or anything.

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That's what I'm after. Only problem is that UTG is left with $71. This is at FT where, apparently, UTG must make a full size reraise in order to allow me to pop it. So, $38 is too high here. It can't be any more than $35.

[CalledDownLight]

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Online.

I'd like to hear why you make it $38 please.

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It allows you to shove over UTG's AI if thats what he does and isolate him with dead money vs. anyone that just coldcalls. It's also just a little under pot so its not an overbet or anything.

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That's what I'm after. Only problem is that UTG is left with $71. This is at FT where, apparently, UTG must make a full size reraise in order to allow me to pop it. So, $38 is too high here. It can't be any more than $35.

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It said $79 in the OP, but you're doing the math wrong. You only reraised $30 because the initial raise was to $8. A min raise from him would be to $68 so putting in $71 would be enough to give you the option.

[RyanCMU]

Here I would make my reraise enough to put UTG all-in...

[KurtSF]

Pot?

So what's that, like $40.