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The reason for the 'slowplay' pre flop was that the button was playing at 78/42 and shoving most flops, with any pair, sometimes no pair /draw. He had previously shoved an AK2J board on the turn with 23o and there was this beauty:
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com Button ($149.05) Hero ($100) BB ($174.90) UTG ($74.30) MP ($49.40) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $8.50. Flop: ($25.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, MP calls $1. Turn: ($27.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $27.5</font>, MP calls $27.50. River: ($82.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $33.8 (All-In)</font>, MP calls $8.90 (All-In). Final Pot: $125.20 UTG has 7c Ks (one pair, twos). MP has Ac Kc (one pair, twos). Outcome: MP wins $100.30. UTG wins $24.90. Therefore, I expect him to re-raise pre-flop so that I can shove; or if he calls to go crazy on a safe board for my hand, so elect to just call the initial raise from UTG who was 18/11/3 and who I'd expect to fold a midpair / AT type hand to any re-raise pre-flop but likely overplay such a hand post flop if I just flat called due to the presence of the maniac in the hand. Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com UTG ($103) Hero ($100) CO ($157.55) Button ($25.35) SB ($45.90) BB ($119) Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($13.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21.35 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $13.35, Hero calls $13.35. Turn: ($77.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $70</font>, Hero folds. River: ($147.55) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $147.55 |
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I don't understand this at all. Based on your reads, everything went according to plan until UTG called maniac's push and you ... why not push at that point?
And then the turn, why fold the turn? WTF? |
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The large turn bet scares me. Maniac is all in at this point, he knows his hand is being showndown and therfore has less incentive to bluff. Moreover, he should feel safer checking down AJ type hands as he knows that I too am less likely to bluff given that my hand will be shown down. With this is mind the turn bet suggests a very big hand.
But that is why I posted this hand, as I was worried that it may be too weak of a fold? |
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I'd be more understandable if you raised PF and then called on the flop. But as played why would villian check AJ to what looks like a draw and give you a freecard?
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just get it all in on the flop
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just get it all in on the flop [/ QUOTE ] |
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just get it all in on the flop [/ QUOTE ] Often people are far too keen to let villain commit more to do that, especially with position. |
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so elect to just call the initial raise from UTG who was 18/11/3 and who I'd expect to fold a midpair / AT type hand to any re-raise pre-flop but likely overplay such a hand post flop if I just flat called due to the presence of the maniac in the hand [/ QUOTE ] This was your plan, so why did you chicken out? Your hand is so underrepped here and looks like a draw. I think I'd shove turn, but don't know how much I'd like it. |
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