Really interesting 5/10 hand every street

[green_lemur]

Villan in this hand is NoendsNoskinz who runs at 26/21 over 200 hands but is clearly a reg with a new screen name. not alot of history though with this sn so no real readsother than hes lag. Im gonna start with preflop first. You guys call or reraise?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($1482)
MP ($1164)
CO ($985)
Button ($3313.42)
SB ($140)
BB ($4208.12)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, MP calls $35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $180</font>

[ahnuld]

Wow irritating spot. He raised big enough for me to feel confident that the other guys wont stick around and if you call you can probably see the flop HU, so id call.

[JEFF or DAD]

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Wow irritating spot. He raised big enough for me to feel confident that the other guys wont stick around and if you call you can probably see the flop HU, so id call.

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button is ~3k deep w/BB

[Requin]

No way is button folding if you just call.

[green_lemur]

button is aquifex who is 22/7 and plays pretty bad/predictable. MP is unknown


edit: none of you guys like shoving?

[Unknown Soldier]

how do mp/button play like?

think I'm calling here, TT and I'd fold.

[green_lemur]

Alright, I did just call but I did expect the button to come along giving me better set odds if I was behind. he did not though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($1482)
MP ($1164)
CO ($985)
Button ($3313.42)
SB ($140)
BB ($4208.12)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]].
[color=Red]Hero raises to $35</font>, MP calls $35, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, Button calls $35, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, [color=Red]BB raises to $180</font>, Hero calls $145, MP folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($435) 9[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], 7[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 3[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
BB checks.


Who fires here, who checks behind, and if you do fire what do you do if he CRes?

[jfish]

check.

[cero_z]

Hey green lemur,

Too deep to shove JJ pre there even in a pretty clear squeezing spot, IMO. I like a shove with 100BBs or less, though. A 4-bet is probably my preferred play there, but I also run laggier than that guy, so people prolly give me less credit than they'd give you, which is a good thing in this spot.

On the flop, I'd check if I wasn't prepared to get the money in, and bet 1/2 pot if I was. If I checked the flop behind, I'd likely be going to showdown (and if I bet 1/2 pot, I almost certainly would).

[DMoogle]

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Hey green lemur,

Too deep to shove JJ pre there even in a pretty clear squeezing spot, IMO. I like a shove with 100BBs or less, though. A 4-bet is probably my preferred play there, but I also run laggier than that guy, so people prolly give me less credit than they'd give you, which is a good thing in this spot.

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I'd prefer 4-betting (with the intention of playing for stacks) if we were deeper OR (and unfortunately this isn't the case) his RR wasn't as large. His large re-raise would make our 4-bet be large enough to show that we're committed, which means he'd be less likely to 5-bet with a weaker hand (except AK). You sure are at a disadvantage that he probably knows who you are but you don't know who he is. So I believe calling is best.

On the flop I think I would bet 1/2 the pot and, possibly depending on his timing, call a check-raise all-in. I find people are checking here with whiffed overs or a draw more often than a hand that beats us. A 1/2PSB may induce a bluff-raise from overs, and any bet will probably induce a raise if he has a draw.