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Old 10-15-2007, 06:30 AM
Pigeons Pigeons is offline
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Default Deep river bluff

Villain1 is bad Lagish. Havent seen him before, and he probably the main reason for why the game is running. He over values his hands and makes bad and predictable plays.

Villain2 is a decent regular. He is very lose and quite tricky. He makes som weird plays sometimes. He does not bluff alot.

I have been playing lose and fast. I have plenty of history with Villain1, and he probably sees me as a good aggressive player. He knows I am capable of running big bluffs.



Seat 1: Hero (10190.00)
Seat 2: Button (5544.00)
Seat 3: Villain1 (12473.60)
Seat 4: Villain2 (12729.98)
Seat 5: UTG (5000.00)

Villain1 post SB 25.00
Villain2 post BB 50.00

** Deal **
Hero [7c, 7s]

*** Bet Round 1 ***
UTG Fold
Hero Raise to 150.00
Button Fold
Villain1 Call 150.00
Villain2 Call 150.00

*** Flop(Board): *** : [2s, 6s, 4d]

*** Bet Round 2 ***
Villain1 Check
Villain2 Check
Hero Bet 300.00
Villain1 Call 300.00
Villain2 Call 300.00

*** Turn(Board): *** : [2s, 6s, 4d, 5c]

*** Bet Round 3 ***
Villain1 Check
Villain2 Bet 1100.00
Hero Call 1100.00
Villain1 Fold

*** River(Board): *** : [2s, 6s, 4d, 5c, 5s]

*** Bet Round 4 ***
Villain2 Bet 1850.00
Hero All-in 8640.00

..thoughts?
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:33 AM
Terkman Terkman is offline
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

what do you think villain has?
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

and what of the hand he is valuebetting do you think he folds to the push?
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:07 AM
the_dal_kid the_dal_kid is offline
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

I think the worst hand he's valuebetting here is a flush (probably the nut flush with A3/A4) and I doubt he's folding that since it's concievable that you're going crazy with KQs...

Nevertheless your ballsiness is still pretty impressive.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

i dont like it.. his hand def. looks very strong, u would have raised the turn with a set so u cant have a full here and you probably would just call with a flush on this board so i dont think you do a good job of representing anything.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

agreed. don't think this is profitable. I wouldn't b/f ace high flush here vs your line. Don't really see what your trying to represent, except maybe 54/56. Like this move less the more I think about it.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

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i dont like it.. his hand def. looks very strong, u would have raised the turn with a set so u cant have a full here and you probably would just call with a flush on this board so i dont think you do a good job of representing anything.

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I would definetly not have raised the turn with 2pair/set, since there is a four card straight out there. Therefore I think my line makes sense.

I cannot see villain having a house here, since he only called the flop on a drawy board against two players, and therefore most probably does not have a set.

I would also for sure raise his weak lead with A/K high flush. In the moment I thought his most likely holding was a straigh - a 4 or maybe 87.

Another thing to note is that villain knows I am sick callingstation, and therefore is more likely to v.-bet thinly with a straight, no?

I dont know if my thoughs are why off, thats why I posted the hand...


Edit: In my first post I mentioned I had history with Villain1, it is of course Villain2 whom I have some history with.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:43 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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i dont like it.. his hand def. looks very strong, u would have raised the turn with a set so u cant have a full here

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you saw the 4card straight right? even if you raise a set to protect against a flush draw, it's not like so standard that villain just uses hand reading 101 and figures out that a full house is impossible, because that's just not the case most of the time in thi sspot.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

you have to have some confidence that he won't just go "GODDAMNIT THEY ALWAYS COOLER MY STRAIGHTS" and call, but this line looks pretty good to me.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Deep river bluff

Ok seems like most people agree it was a good move against the right oponent. But my reads were off since he had 45off for a full house and obv insta called. meh
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