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Old 09-01-2007, 09:00 PM
iSTRONG iSTRONG is offline
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Default AJ in a tough spot

Both villains are semi-loose aggressive regulars. I've just sat at the table

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $165.16
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $194.15
MP: $216.90
CO: $240.40
BTN: $54.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $8.00, SB folds, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $40.00</font>, Hero...?
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

i turbo muck
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

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i turbo muck

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Notice button is short-stacked. still turbo-muck?
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

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i turbo muck

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Notice button is short-stacked. still turbo-muck?

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Wow, I can't believe I didn't see that.that changes everything. I'd 3bet here definately then.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

ALL IN! backdoor spades yo!
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

I'm folding pre.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

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i turbo muck

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Notice button is short-stacked. still turbo-muck?

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now that i noticed , even a quicker muck... because the range for the utg regular to cbet this flop 3 way WITH a shortstack involved is much stronger that without the shorstack

i think my leak is that i am almost never folding this preflop in this spot, while that is probably the best thing to do
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

Folding&gt;raisiing&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt ;calling

Calling sucks here OOP, with a player left to act. It's close because a)there's so many draws out, and b)Button knows UTG's range is very wide here. I lean towards folding here because we have the As, UTG still is left to act, and we aren't commited to this pot at all.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:22 PM
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i would probably fold PF against regs, AJo doesn't play well multiway.

on the flop it is an easy fold
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:25 PM
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the only other way to play is maybe to lead flop, then fold to a raise from UTG, but get it in againt the shortstack. the UTG raiser is unlikely to bluffraise with a shortstack behind him, so you find out where you are at. but this spot is why you don't wanna often call here PF
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