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Old 08-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default My queens get re-raised

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $52.80
BB: $50.40
UTG: $57.15
MP: $46.35
CO: $52.05
Hero (BTN): $55.70

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 20/14/oo over 80 hands.

He sees me as a positional and active player.

MP is a loose/passive fish.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q Q (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.25</font>, MP folds,

What is optimal here?
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:09 PM
itWASaDREAM itWASaDREAM is offline
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

I think the very worse that he is going to show up with here is going to be a hand like AK. Really if he seems to understand position he is not going to be three betting oop with a hand that you likely have dominated. Only hands you have crushed that are in his range is going to be TT and JJ IMO.

I think the best line is to call the raise and see a flop. If the flop comes with an ace or king I will fold if he cbets, if the flop is low cards I will call a bet on the flop and revalute the turn, but not willing to go broke with the hand without some more information.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

i would also call. one thing helping you is that you have an extra large chance of stacking villain if you should make a set.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

Call, play Pokah! This is a much more interesting decision when OOP.

BB's 3popping range looks bigger than your typical NL50 AK QQ+ given your description of him and the MP limp and your position. QQ is ahead of his range and you've got position, go ahead and call.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

OK, I think we all agree call is optimal.

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q Q (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.25</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $10.00</font>

What now? fwiw villain has a cbet rate of 76%
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

I would just call and see if he fires again.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:39 PM
Romanis Romanis is offline
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

I'd probably push this and go broke against AA/KK/JJ. It's a flop without an A or K. Isn't that what we hoped for preflop (besides a set)?
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

[ QUOTE ]
OK, I think we all agree call is optimal.

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q Q (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.25</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $10.00</font>

What now? fwiw villain has a cbet rate of 76%

[/ QUOTE ]

I would call here. I don't think he'll be calling a raise with anything you beat except maybe AJ.
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:44 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
OK, I think we all agree call is optimal.

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q Q (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.25</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $10.00</font>

What now? fwiw villain has a cbet rate of 76%

[/ QUOTE ]

Call and stack off on a safe turn
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:26 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: My queens get re-raised

Pre-flop calling is optimal IMO....its is more interesting/difficult when OOP


[ QUOTE ]
I think the very worse that he is going to show up with here is going to be a hand like AK. Really if he seems to understand position he is not going to be three betting oop with a hand that you likely have dominated.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wrong...his stats seem like a decent player and a good player could be 3betting very wide here against a button raise from the original poster. He could possibly have any pair, suited connectors, suited 1 gappers, suited A's maybe, AQ,AJ, etc.
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