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Old 08-22-2007, 11:54 PM
Nitilism Nitilism is offline
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Default Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

I'll be honest, I'm posting this because a lot of times when pots get this big and I'm holding Aces, I am tilting...

After about 100 hands, villian is running 66/40/1.86 and has gone to show down 38% of time. The deck however has been hitting him the face and he is sitting with 5 buy-ins, one of them from me when he outdrew my flopped two pair which I checkraised

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $15.45
UTG+1: $70.75
CO: $38.35
Button: $246.65
SB: $64.40
Hero: $91.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.1</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $5.15</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $12.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $51</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $178.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $35.55</font>.
Uncalled bets: $91.95 returned to Button.

Thanks.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

Playing aces out of position deep stacked against an extremely aggressive player is a problem I've been having too.

I think your right not to re-raise preflop. It tips your hand and you only get a small percentage of your stack in. You really need a read here on the range of hands this guy will re-raise in position pre-flop, which after 100 hands you might not really know. If he raises here with a wide range I would be hesitant to make a move on him here. You have a really marginal hand with pretty much no redraw. I would wait for a better spot to get in against this guy.

Good to see you moved up to PLO 50, I moved up at the begining of August and started playing on Pstars.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:16 AM
Full-Metall Full-Metall is offline
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

Is he usually aggro on the flop?
I like how you played this hands considering you are deep and oop.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:22 AM
alavet alavet is offline
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

uh man hey may have repping his aces/kings but lok at him agression factor
i've played with a couple of that guys with such stats - they plays preflop a lot but in flop they agressive just with strong hands.
not reraising with aces is rather ok but i PSB flop by myself and gather info. it would be look much stronger, and after reraise you probably may fold (he wouldnt reraise with total air but with kind of semi-dominating draws at least)
after he reraised you i cry and fold
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:27 AM
Slap My Jack Slap My Jack is offline
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

Why are you checkraising this flop?
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

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Why are you checkraising this flop?

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QFT.

There are 4 aces in a deck of cards. People like playing aces, whether it be just one, or two.
You haven't flopped a flush draw, which increases the chance that someone else has if they have the correct ace.
You don't want to be shoving this flop against a player with a flush draw, it's not good for you.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:13 AM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

This is about as bad as you can play AA in omaha.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:20 AM
RichGangi RichGangi is offline
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

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Why are you checkraising this flop?

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Old 08-23-2007, 11:28 AM
Elrazor Elrazor is offline
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Default Re: Deep AAxx hand, $50PLO, spew or played correctly???

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After about 100 hands, villian is running 66/40/1.86

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this is the reason i hate this play more than anything - anything less than an agro factor of around 2 is passive for PLO for example of the 10 players i have up on my external GT window, 7 are higher than 2, these are far from spewey tables i am playing

these players make all their money from being a maniac pre, then carefully picking their spots post flop when 1 of the tags decides to 'take a stand'

if his agro factor was like 15 or something then your play is reasonable, but as it stands hes played you like a cheap harmonica
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:09 PM
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these players make all their money from being a maniac pre, then carefully picking their spots post flop when 1 of the tags decides to 'take a stand'


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I know these types of players, the good ones don't go to showdown 38% of the time, and as a mathematical necessity their AF's have to be higher because they are folding at some point when they miss. Don't mistake a fish on a heater for a LAG.
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