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Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
Villain is complete unknown. Initial raiser is a huge donk hence my very large reraise, villain may think my range here is wider than usual because of this. I checked the flop very quickly FWIW. So, I have to call this obv, or no?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($660.30) UTG ($806.81) MP ($2275.23) CO ($821.83) Button ($438) SB ($440) Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $73</font>, CO folds, SB calls $65. Flop: ($166) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. Turn: ($166) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB calls $438 (All-In). |
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
meh....i cant fault u for calling
but no flop bet? it sure looks like SB has some PP or Ax from pf action, and i find that ppl find it hard to fold even hands like 77 on this flop |
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
I hate saying it, but you have to fold this. An overbet like this as a bluff only makes sense if its impossible, or at least very rare that you would have the nuts. Its entirely too possible that hes shoving into the nuts here for this ever to be a bluff imo. Unless he's a tard.
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
i would never fold here, i would also bet the flop
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
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i would never fold here, i would also bet the flop [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
Yeah, I always call here too based on the donk factor.
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
Tough spot, esp against unknown. IME, calling OOP from the SB, then calling the 3-bet OOP is more consistent with med+ PP than Ax, but not by much.
Since you have the nut boat, I'd be inclined to call, esp since I'd consider shoving (on villain's part) with the case A to be "a move" that would potentially lose too much value if he didn't have a read how you would interpret it. As the re-raiser, you could easily have it and be slow-playing. At the table I'd probably fold, tho, cuz I'm weak-tight. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
insta fold for me
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
i just, i don't know what to say or how to analyze this other than i would get themonies in and not fold prob. you realize we have the second nuts? i don't get something that close to the nuts often enough to fold it when i do get it
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Re: Sure looks like I\'m being Zeebowned, but still a call?
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An overbet like this as a bluff only makes sense if its impossible, or at least very rare that you would have the nuts. Its entirely too possible that hes shoving into the nuts here for this ever to be a bluff imo. [/ QUOTE ] This was my thinking too. With about 10 seconds left I decided to fold... Timer ran down to 1 second, at which point I obviously clicked call! Villain shows J9o, ship the random flop checks... Very strange hand though. I checked the flop because not many cards change the board texture too much and I wanted to induce betting, but I guess I do want to get some moneys in before overcards come to weak PPs. As it turns out this unknown happened to be an uberdonk ([img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Party) but I thought it was an interesting spot because vs a straightforward/sensible player he should always have the ace, really. |
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