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#1
11-04-2007, 08:13 AM
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AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
No reads on opponent.
Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (3.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero... 
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#2
11-04-2007, 08:51 AM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
With no reads I bet the turn here on the basis that BB could be calling with any two overcards to the board. I fold to a check raise and I check behind on the river if I don't improve. The real problem here comes if he donks the river after check calling the turn.
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#3
11-04-2007, 09:54 AM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
The flop is pretty dry here and you're only against 1 opponent but he could be a donk calling with a 7, 2 or 3. The pot is only 3 BBs so it's not worth fighting over it too much. You have position so you can check and get a free river card and then bet if you hit an A or Q on the river, otherwise check/fold.
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#4
11-04-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
Most of the time you check behind here and fold to the river bet from BB if you don't improve.
Sometimes you'll want to bet this again and check behind on the river. Going too far with overcards is one of the first leaks you should be fixing in your game.
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#5
11-04-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
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Most of the time you check behind here and fold to the river bet from BB if you don't improve. Sometimes you'll want to bet this again and check behind on the river. Going too far with overcards is one of the first leaks you should be fixing in your game. [/ QUOTE ] Good guide K, I think that's one of my leaks too, esp with AK
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#6
11-04-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
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Most of the time you check behind here and fold to the river bet from BB if you don't improve. Sometimes you'll want to bet this again and check behind on the river. Going too far with overcards is one of the first leaks you should be fixing in your game. [/ QUOTE ] I would check the turn here if I knew I was playing a passive player who wouldn't bet the river without a made hand of some description once I had shown weakness. That's one of the first things I note about opponents because it is very useful in situations like this. Against an unknown or an aggressive player who will bet the river with J10o after I check the turn I prefer to bet now and then I can maybe make an extra bet if I hit an ace or queen on the river. I fold UI if villain donks the river, but this isn't going to happen often with a hand that I beat.
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#7
11-04-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
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Most of the time you check behind here and fold to the river bet from BB if you don't improve. Sometimes you'll want to bet this again and check behind on the river. Going too far with overcards is one of the first leaks you should be fixing in your game. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, just because you raise a hand with "big cards" like AQo, AJs, or AKo/s, doesn't mean you have to keep going if you miss the flop. In this case though you are heads up, so I think checking and folding to river bet, or firing again on the turn and checking the river if possible could both be correct. It depends of your read on the bad guy and what you think he could do.
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#8
11-04-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
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Most of the time you check behind here and fold to the river bet from BB if you don't improve. [/ QUOTE ] Here it is probably ok because the pot is small making the reward not worth the risk ;however, I'm pushing this turn in a larger pot. Checking behind on this turn is giving your hand away and will allow a good opponent to steal from you on the river.
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#10
11-04-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: AQ when you don\'t hit the flop
Without a read, I usually bet here. Micros is chock-full of players who peel the flop lightly but will fold to a bigger bet on the turn.
If I knew this player is a TAG (who is unlikely to call a dry flop for kicks) or a LAG (who loves bluff-raising the turn), then it becomes closer to a check for me. If he's loose-passive, then he's the ideal candidate for firing a second bullet. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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