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Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
This was in the sunday 75k gtd on Absolute. Is It better to be agg and rr or fold? Does anybody smooth call here? Can lay this down and wait in case utg or sb is on AA/KK? I'm curious to hear peoples thoughts about this spot.
Thanks Absolute Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t15/t30 8 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t4985 UTG+1: t3315 MP1: t3335 MP2: t4985 CO: t12760 Button: t6620 SB: t4585 Hero: t5505 Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t90</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls t90 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t135)</font>, Button calls t90 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t225)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t450</font>, |
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
Is this forum super low traffic, is this a topic nobody gives a [censored] about or what?
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
I think this is call and i'm not sure what else we could do. 4 betting at these stacks seems very bad unless this guy is a HUUUUGE donk.
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
Wow, this is a really [censored] spot. I think folding is the best option, the problems with calling are you're not closing the action preflop (MP1 could raise behind you or everyone could call, both of which are horrible results) and what to do if QQ is an overpair on the flop. Shoving is only getting called by a better hand, raise/folding is -cEV. I'm not saying that if I were playing I would actually fold here, because I wouldn't even think about folding.
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
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I'm not saying that if I were playing I would actually fold here, because I wouldn't even think about folding. [/ QUOTE ] I really cant imagine smooth calling is that good of a line though, making a smalllish 4bet folding to a raise is pretty goofy and the big 4 bet is not +EV, is it? |
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
I apologize in advance if my posting in this forum is stepping out of line. Since you don't know where you stand with your hand in an unusual spot, perhaps you can take an unusual line of thought to decide what to do, and consider it as a problem of playing for set value. Looked at that way, I think it's a fold. You'd be getting the right odds if one or more of the other players in the hand came along, but you'd be getting the wrong odds if they all fold, and you'd be throwing chips away if one of them 4bets. Since everything would have to go right for this to play profitably for set value, that suggests a fold.
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
I am still annoyed by this hand, opon review I think it is a call and reevaluate otf, but I dont like it. What do we do when hu vs sb when he brings a 3/4 pot bet on a 953 flop, then another on a 4 turn? Shove in? I'm curious if the only way to not get vtowned by kk/aa is to just fold preflop, because is anyone folding an all under flop?
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Re: Playing QQ 2nd level vs three bet from sb preflop.
Yeh, I think if you call, you need to call him down on a low flop.
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