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[ReidDeCardes]

This is a hand I played the other night. I got a nasty comment afterwards from the button who critisized my pre-flop call. He then left the room as I was typing my response. My read on him is that he raised very frequently in late position and showed some questionable pre-flop card selection. I thought he was LAG.

I think my pre-flop call is text book SSHE, which is what I am trying to do. His flop raise made me think I should check/call on the turn. I think I should have bet the river instead of check/call because there was no club on the river.

Any opinions?


Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $16.70
UTG+1: $3.20
Hero: $17.05
MP1: $9.40
MP2: $7.45
MP3: $8.05
CO: $12.85
Button: $9
SB: $7.05
BB: $7.40

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.4SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.7BB

[Xhad]

I'd usually raise preflop and always c/r the flop.

[00Snitch]

I would also raise preflop.

Given that you didnt, I take a c/c,c/c,b/f line. I think I might over use this line...but my theory goes...

I don't wanna get raised by all those AK-KJ, plus, if he's betting a draw or QQ-TT I want him to keep betting.

[fabadam]

I raise pre-flop, or fold if I don't like who's behind me.

The flop is better for a check/raise. The big disadvantage of this calldown line is that you have to pay off quite a lot to dominating hands, which are a large part of his range here.

[ReidDeCardes]

I can understand the pre-flop raise. Like I said, I am following the SSHE tables. Perhaps I need to get beyond the reccomendations and get to the theory of it more and think. Plus I think I am not aggressive enough. Even at 4000 hands PT is indicating that.

A check/raise on the flop probably would have gotten a re-raise from the guy, based on what I saw. But maybe that would have been a good thing?

I can't see b/f on the river. If I had bet, making it 6.7BB, he raises and it is 8.7 BB back to me, not counting rake. That would seem worth it to call with top pair/decent kicker. Is my thinking correct?

[marchron]

All,

If you wouldn't raise KTo here (and second to act, you shouldn't), then don't raise KTs here. Multiway pots are your friend.

[Xhad]

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If you wouldn't raise KTo here (and second to act, you shouldn't), then don't raise KTs here. Multiway pots are your friend.

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What? Getting multiple coldcalls is horrible with KTo and awesome with KTs.

[00Snitch]

Actually, I get spooked by cold-callers when I raise something like KT. I expect cold-calls to come form hands hands like ATs and KQs sometimes AK. A bit mubsy, but good to keep in the back of your mind when you flop your Ten or King.

[marchron]

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If you are going to play that way marchron, would you open limp this in MP1 too? How about KJs? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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UTG+1 != MP.


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If you wouldn't raise KTo here (and second to act, you shouldn't), then don't raise KTs here. Multiway pots are your friend.

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What? Getting multiple coldcalls is horrible with KTo and awesome with KTs.

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Which is why I limp with KTs and fold KTo from EP.

[Xhad]

Your statement still doesn't make any sense. Maybe if it were more like "If you wouldn't raise KTs then you shouldn't raise JTs either," but "If you wouldn't raise KTo you shouldn't raise KTs"...what do the two have to do with each other?