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Been at the table for 25 hands. My only read at the time was that villain had done nothing remarkable over those hands. I'm at 16/16 over those 25 hands.
2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, CO calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> What's your line here? |
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With two opponents, leading out the flop with a semibluff bet seems correct. Capping preflop has its advantages as you face the cutoff again with two bets to call cold.
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With two opponents, leading out the flop with a semibluff bet seems correct. Capping preflop has its advantages as you face the cutoff again with two bets to call cold. [/ QUOTE ] He's already called two cold. I wouldn't count on his folding for two more now he's "pot committed". I don't think you'd be semibluffing if you bet out here. You're mostly ahead. I don't like checkraising though. A bet and a raise back to me is tough but it can easily happen if CO bets out with a pair (4s say, or 8s, either a str8 draw + pair or overpair) and BTN raises with his AcKd or better. Am I threebetting that? If I do and they both call, what am I doing on the turn? What if it's then capped? Am I definitely beaten? Can I checkfold the turn? I can't donk it, can I? I don't like betting out much either. No one is folding to a single bet. The best I can hope for is that CO raises and button gives up. |
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"crunch"
reraise preflop both to gain info about button and to drive CO out or make him pay.You can then bet right into them on the flop. With only a call preflop I think you should bet anyway - if your opponents doesn't have a club at all they will have an easy fold or at least a hard decision and a bet here will drive out those with nothing at all. Try to find out and bet. Besides if one sits with a lonely higher club than yours you want to make him pay for his flushdraw. If your are behind - well then this becomes expensive but with this hand you want to go showdown unless the others go totally bananas.... |
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I don't think you'd be semibluffing if you bet out here. You're mostly ahead. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that the FD helps, but I think we are still often behind here given that it was three bet pf. Using the range I quoted above: Behind 24 overpairs Behind AcQc and AcKc - 2 hands ahead of 18 AQs,AK hands tied with TT The FD gives us a redraw against 12 of the overpair hands that do not contain a club and gives 7 of the 19 hands we are ahead of have a redraw to a better flush. If we bet out, what do we do if we get raised? What hands raise us here? |
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I've got to run to an appointment, but here's the turn:
Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, CO calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, CO folds. Turn: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players) |
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i'm playing as passively as you did on the flop. i'd like to take a line that allows us to see a river for cheap, then decide what to do depending on if a club hits. i give up if CO starts a war with button at some point in the hand. and i want to take a line that lets button overplay some non-club AK.
on the turn i would c/c, b/f the river if he checks behind on the turn, bet the river. |
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I've got to run to an appointment, but here's the turn: Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, CO calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, CO folds. Turn: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players) [/ QUOTE ] check-call it down (facing one bet). bet riv if it checks through. you won't get much out of worse hands from Button.. so let him continue to push his hand. |
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Check and raise.
I'd like the CO to fold pronto, and if I wait and try to drive him out on the turn pretty much any card is going to suck, and having the turn checked through 3-handed would make me gag. |
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Check and raise. I'd like the CO to fold pronto, and if I wait and try to drive him out on the turn pretty much any card is going to suck, and having the turn checked through 3-handed would make me gag. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah check/raise for sure. The only problem is if the dealer doesn't bet (he has AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something). The upside is that we will know if he is slowplaying (he checks the flop and raises a turn blank). So this hand seems pretty straight forward to me. C/r flop. Shutdown if a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls on the turn. If it checks though bet any non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and check if you make a flush. |
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