10/20 top two vs cts, 250BB deep and 3-handed

[nath]

Just wondering what the best line here is that extracts the most value from a worse hand. I didn't reraise PF because I didn't want to build a huge pot. I suspect he views me as "nath the lagtard" even though I haven't been particularly out of line. And I'm assuming I'm not too worried about 66 here (or should I be if I 4-bet the flop and he 5-bets)?

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SB ($5247)
Hero ($5119.50)
Button ($4066)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $50.

Flop: ($140) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $113</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $315</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $555</font>, Hero?

[ZJ123]

i think theres a good chance he has air, i mean with taht min raise.. is he a good thinking player? if so, just call, and raise turn.

[NNNNOOOOONAN]

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i think theres a good chance he has air, i mean with taht min raise.. is he a good thinking player? if so, just call, and raise turn.

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zomg. i think CTS would qualify as a good thinking player, yes.

since you still have pos. on him, i'd flat call after thinking for a while. then see what happens on turn. there's a good chance he'll put the money in for you. if you're not into that, it may be tough to do unless he has a very close second best hand.
not a very drawy board to fake a hand with.

[TheJared]

I would definately call here and probably just call a turn as well depending on bet size I don't see any reason to take him out of the lead in this pot and if you bomb the turn he's going to fold out A6 most of the time.

[nath]

I just have to say that I love ZJ123's avatar.

More to come on the actual hand after I let the morning crowd get a chance to respond.

[TheNewf]

Call and minraise turn sounds good. I'm fairly certain you have to minraise him back at some point in the hand.

[LearnedfromTV]

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I just have to say that I love ZJ123's avatar.

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omgqft

[SlowHabit]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($5247)
Hero ($5119.50)
Button ($4066)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $50.

Flop: ($140) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $113</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $315</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $555</font>, Hero?

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It's important to know whether or not he was watching Latin hotties during the hand.

[MDMA]

While it's true for exactly KQ, KT or QT, I don't see how any other semi(?)bluff would have some outs so that they will actually consider calling except as a float. I mean you are talking about 2nd pair etc, how do you except a jack to ever raise the flop here? That is ridiculous.

Also I have no idea why you are discussing something like "4-beting and then having to fold"; obviously you have a bluff or a hand that plans to get it in, there are no legit hands that 4-bet to fold here, so that is not an issue ever. If there is such a fear in you that you will get outplayed by cts on the flop and that would be reason for people to float much more instead, that would automatically make a 4-bet very good here, since what you say is that cts is in fact LIKELY to go ahead with a bluff here.

What you say is only true whenever you can 4-bet a legit hand and fold to a 5-bet, which is not the case here.

I'm not saying a call is bad in any way, I'm just saying that it looks awfully tempting to make it 1110 here as opposed to calling.

[theBruiser500]

your logic is so whack. calling a raise is obviously weaker than fckn 5 bet minraising.