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Friday $280 Noon tournament at the Borgata in AC. I could tell from the getgo that our dealer would be trouble as he dealt very slowly and didn't seen to be paying full attention or really caring about the action. I really thought he was new, but I was suprised to be informed by an apparent regular that he had been dealing several years.
Anyway, a bit over an hour into the tournament I posted my big blind. Our dealer dealt the cards out at his regular slow pace. I usually take my cards right away to protect them, but this time I was distracted by either the TV or a borgata babe... either way I hadn't grabbed my cards by the time UTG and UTG+1 folded. As he did, the dealer mucked their cards as well as mine and the SB's (who had just gotten to the table)! The action stopped at this point when we informed the dealer of his error, but the cards were already mucked. Only UTG and UTG+1 had folded but the dealer insisted that there would be no redeal and that the muck stands. The floor was called over after my request and he agreed with the dealer's decision, simply saying "protect your cards." Since the blinds were relatively small, I didn't argue any further, but I really felt it should have been a redeal. I didn't even have 2 seconds to react before my cards were folded. I mean, my cards were right in front of my chips and nowhere near the muck and the only action thusfar had been folds. So what's the verdict, is this standard or did Borgata just own me? |
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Protect your cards. Ignore the boob tube and the boobs in the tube top and concentrate on your game...
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From Robert's Rules of Poker:
"2. You must protect your own hand at all times. Your cards may be protected with your hands, a chip, or other object placed on top of them. If you fail to protect your hand, you will have no redress if it becomes fouled or the dealer accidentally kills it." Link of complete rules. |
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To be fair to you, that does suck, and it's odd a dealer would muck hands out of turn. Perhaps that dealer has a bug up his ass about people paying attention to the game. WRT the SB, it's proper to muck the hand of an absent player as soon as the deal is completed.
Regardless, the onus is always on you to protect your hand. No matter what else happens, if you didn't protect your hand, too darn bad. |
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Protect your hand doesnt apply here. The dealer has a job too, thats why they get paid more than people with real jobs. He should be able to notice that only 2 people mucked, and where cards are that he just delt out 2 seconds ago. Floor call was BS here.
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Protect your hand doesnt apply here. The dealer has a job too, thats why they get paid more than people with real jobs. He should be able to notice that only 2 people mucked, and where cards are that he just delt out 2 seconds ago. Floor call was BS here. [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly the situation you have to protect your hand against. |
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You sure did get owned, by yourself. Sounds like you had a good dealer that works quick, I find it annoying when dealers always ask the 1/9 seat "are you folding?" when their hands are unprotected and the players are paying attention to something else since they obviously don't want to play their hand.
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You sure did get owned, by yourself. Sounds like you had a good dealer that works quick, I find it annoying when dealers always ask the 1/9 seat "are you folding?" when their hands are unprotected and the players are paying attention to something else since they obviously don't want to play their hand. [/ QUOTE ] "could tell from the getgo that our dealer would be trouble as he dealt very slowly and didn't seen to be paying full attention or really caring about the action." Good to know you can read. |
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] You sure did get owned, by yourself. Sounds like you had a good dealer that works quick, I find it annoying when dealers always ask the 1/9 seat "are you folding?" when their hands are unprotected and the players are paying attention to something else since they obviously don't want to play their hand. [/ QUOTE ] "could tell from the getgo that our dealer would be trouble as he dealt very slowly and didn't seen to be paying full attention or really caring about the action." Good to know you can read. [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps he also read this quote from the OP. [ QUOTE ] I didn't even have 2 seconds to react before my cards were folded. [/ QUOTE ] Which is it? They can't both be accurate. Jimbo |
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Der, nevermind. Yeah, I meant I had just a few seconds from the time he finished dealing. The cards were close to my chips tho [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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