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Common situation in RR pot with TT
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
SB ($99) BB ($111.05) UTG ($36.70) MP ($59.85) Hero ($118.10) Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $9. Flop: ($27) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $18.5</font>, Hero does what? Villain here is a decent TAG, stats are 19/16/2.8. He is probably solid/ABC enough to not be reraising lighter than the situation calls for, but it's obviously a spot where good players can reraise fairly wide. I called preflop because folding seemed incredibly weak and exploitable, yet 4betting totally unnecessary. But what do I do now? I suspect villain is cbetting damn near 100% of his reraised hands, so folding still seems kind of weak. Is it okay/standard to call a flop bet and then fold if he fires again on the turn? If we call and he checks turn, should we be betting? Sorry if this is actually standard, but it's got me very confused. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
i would fold. i dont like calling/folding much w. this hand. too many cards to kill action, dont know wtf he's betting with (is he bluffing w. the better hand, ie. QQ?)/etc.
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
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i would fold. i dont like calling/folding much w. this hand. too many cards to kill action, dont know wtf he's betting with (is he bluffing w. the better hand, ie. QQ?)/etc. [/ QUOTE ] which flops are you peeling then? i assume we can't be playing solely for set value, or can we? |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
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[ QUOTE ] i would fold. i dont like calling/folding much w. this hand. too many cards to kill action, dont know wtf he's betting with (is he bluffing w. the better hand, ie. QQ?)/etc. [/ QUOTE ] which flops are you peeling then? i assume we can't be playing solely for set value, or can we? [/ QUOTE ] peeling prob all xxx boards (w. no paint). sometimes stuff like 789 boards (where we shove). |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
call once and fold after that, or just fold now
i usually peel once |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
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call once and fold after that, or just fold now i usually peel once [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
If he's TAG, the ONLY hand you're ahead of is AQ IMO, once in a while AJs. I doubt 99 or AT or somethin like that reraises preflop, even against a button raise (unless your image is like insane lagtard). pretty std fold
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
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If he's TAG, the ONLY hand you're ahead of is AQ IMO, once in a while AJs. I doubt 99 or AT or somethin like that reraises preflop, even against a button raise (unless your image is like insane lagtard). pretty std fold [/ QUOTE ] every time i see that you posted, i think that maybe you've finally contributed something. you've disappointed me again. |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
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[ QUOTE ] If he's TAG, the ONLY hand you're ahead of is AQ IMO, once in a while AJs. I doubt 99 or AT or somethin like that reraises preflop, even against a button raise (unless your image is like insane lagtard). pretty std fold [/ QUOTE ] every time i see that you posted, i think that maybe you've finally contributed something. you've disappointed me again. [/ QUOTE ] ouch dude. but yeah hebrew, your assigned ranges are way too tight there. i'm definitely not a lagtard, but my attempt to steal blind stat is like 30%, and villain is certainly aware that hands like A9 and 88 are ahead of my range. |
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Re: Common situation in RR pot with TT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If he's TAG, the ONLY hand you're ahead of is AQ IMO, once in a while AJs. I doubt 99 or AT or somethin like that reraises preflop, even against a button raise (unless your image is like insane lagtard). pretty std fold [/ QUOTE ] every time i see that you posted, i think that maybe you've finally contributed something. you've disappointed me again. [/ QUOTE ] ouch dude. but yeah hebrew, your assigned ranges are way too tight there. i'm definitely not a lagtard, but my attempt to steal blind stat is like 30%, and villain is certainly aware that hands like A9 and 88 are ahead of my range. [/ QUOTE ] i'm not trying to be a dick, but there are a lot of newish players/posters on here who learn from the discussion on this site. they might not have yet developed a good noise filter and reading this kind of trash stunts their learning. my game has developed thanks to the discussion on these boards and side conversations with posters like maulik/keyser/fly/dbitel/skier5 and a ton others. i feel a small responsibility to at least alert newer guys that some people just post a lot of trash. sorry for clogging your thread AE. this is a good/common spot that i'm not sure i handle optimally so i'm glad to see it being discussed. |
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