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4 streets of 44
live 4/8. this is my second orbit but so far table is passive and old with a few spazzy asian guys.
* PREFLOP * 4 limpers to me in the co with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and i limp. button (old white guy) raises. i haven't seen him do anything. 7 calls to me and i... <font color="blue">so since i'm 7.5:1 to flop a set, shouldn't i 3bet for value here?</font> ...call. * FLOP * (8 players!, 16 sb) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. checks to me, i... <font color="blue">how much do i trust old guy to bet here? should i bet and hope to 3bet?</font> ...checks, old guy bets, 4 callers and i raise (sweeeet). one guy folds (lol?) and the rest call. * TURN * (5 players, 12 bb) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] checks to hero, hero... <font color="blue">takes a free card because he's behind so often?</font> ...bets, old guy grumbles and mucks with passion, sb calls, bb calls, other guy folds. * RIVER * (3 players, 15 bb) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] sb donks, bb calls, hero... <font color="blue">the pot is big but am i really good often enough to overcall?</font> ...calls. |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
NH, I play it exactly like you did.
preflop) no, your hand doesn't have value now. Play it like a 7.5-1 draw. And if you hit your set, you are still not entirely sure you're good. Just call flop) either way is fine. value vs. winning the pot right there. your c/r increases variance, but probably increases winrate a little bit. turn) No free card. Even if somebody has a staright, you got 10 outs to make a FH. don't immediatly give somebody credit for a straight. river) crying call (17-1), expect to lose most of the time... |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
well I would call at 17 to 1. I wonder how pissed bb is that he didn't raise the turn with his 7.
Seems contrary to say you are beat by both here and still call but 17 to 1 and considering how bad I have read people play live I think its good here 6% of the time. |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
Gross crying call on river, you have to be beat 90%+ since str8 and flush, but I call too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: 4 streets of 44
Yeah, i hate it an call. I can never fold sets in pots that big. This always happens live. You have a massive pot on the river, your in front the whole way, you have protected your hand, then the river [censored] you. This is the down side of playing a loose passive table full of geriatrics, problem gamblers and retards.
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Re: 4 streets of 44
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This is the down side of playing a loose passive table full of geriatrics, problem gamblers and retards. [/ QUOTE ] oh please. if im not getting sucked out on at least once or twice in a session then i consider it a bad game. |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
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if im not getting sucked out on at least once or twice in a session then i consider it a bad game. [/ QUOTE ] QFT |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
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you have to be beat 90%+ [/ QUOTE ] Well, how much do you need to be good to make calling 0EV? Hint: Somebody, I think Smurph, already gave the answer. |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
PF: I don't raise. Since u must hit a set on the flop or else you are out, u don't have an equity edge. Hitting a set is not = wining especially not 9 handed.
Flop: Donk it, gor for a 3-bet. Can't trust the oldies. getting this round checked through is a disaster in value missing. Bet the turn. U may still be ahead and with many callers u may have equity anyway. River: Call. I don't think the caller affects the decission much since he so rarely beats u. What can he hold? So I pay off. |
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Re: 4 streets of 44
tyler against most people i think you gotta call.
against some who never bet big streets w/o the nuts i think you have a rather easy fold. |
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