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Fold KK on the flop after aggression
Hey guys what do you think of this?
I smelled something fishy and managed to fold this. It's the first time I do this so any opinions are appreciated. This guy played 2 out of 15 hands. I have no other info on him. He stated in the chat that he had QQ. I do not know what he had but QQ, AA is my pick... Anyway. Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter Hero (SB): $90.91 BB: $52.37 UTG: $60.97 CO: $48.71 BTN: $50.25 Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) <font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $3 Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $56.97 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds Results: $22.50 Pot ($1.12 Rake) |
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
To me this looks like a set mining line that hit. I fold this.
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
As a tight player I believe the QQ and think you made a good fold.
Would you have called if he would have popped it up to 15-20 instead of push. |
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
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Would you have called if he would have popped it up to 15-20 instead of push. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know man. I think I would at least call it. Perhaps, I d put him AI most of the time. |
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
I believe UTG puts you on KK or AA, and deems you incapable of folding these hands to a massive overbet. He has 44, 55, or QQ.
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
OMG. Call. All. Day. Not exactly a fistpump call but still.
You have 15 hands on the guy and you've convinced yourself he's a nit who just flopped a set. You see all kinds of FDs here, AQ, 67... yes he is going to have a set sometimes but you have to call this with no read. And "he played 2/15 hands" is not a read. |
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
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OMG. Call. All. Day. Not exactly a fistpump call but still. You have 15 hands on the guy and you've convinced yourself he's a nit who just flopped a set. You see all kinds of FDs here, AQ, 67... yes he is going to have a set sometimes but you have to call this with no read. And "he played 2/15 hands" is not a read. [/ QUOTE ] If he has AdXd or OESFD we are coinflipping.... if he has a set we are dead. WTF are we crushing that this is a "call all day"? Is AQo or KQo really jamming for all his chips? Clearly he puts OP on AA/KK and expects him to be unable to lay it down. I use this move CONSTANTLY at 1/2 NL live here in vegas since around 50%+ of tourists ONLY PFR with KK/AA. I just call with ATC and if I am ahead after the flop just move in. They snap call most of the time. |
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
Why do you all think villain puts you on AA/KK in my experience villain always puts you on AK on every 3bet hand.
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
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Why do you all think villain puts you on AA/KK in my experience villain always puts you on AK on every 3bet hand. [/ QUOTE ] If he puts you on AK in this hand then why would he push with such a huge overbet? There is no way AK could call that. He wants to get paid off a whole stack from AA/KK or possibly AQ No one ever bluff-raises all in on the flop for a full buy-in. |
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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
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[ QUOTE ] Why do you all think villain puts you on AA/KK in my experience villain always puts you on AK on every 3bet hand. [/ QUOTE ] If he puts you on AK in this hand then why would he push with such a huge overbet? There is no way AK could call that. He wants to get paid off a whole stack from AA/KK or possibly AQ No one ever bluff-raises all in on the flop for a full buy-in. [/ QUOTE ] Because maybe he does not have a set 100% of the time. |
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