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easy river fold vs. unknowen?
Full Tilt Poker Game #3734539629: Table Peartree (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 12:15:59 ET - 2007/10/02
Seat 1: Max1956 ($65.35), is sitting out Seat 2: willett1981 ($55) Seat 3: PrimeFknTime ($240.85) Seat 4: axelf82 ($180.60) Seat 5: ihateFTPmip ($108.90) Seat 6: Woolworths ($35.40) axelf82 posts the small blind of $0.50 ihateFTPmip posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to axelf82 [8c Ad Kd Jd] Woolworths folds willett1981 folds PrimeFknTime folds axelf82 raises to $3 ihateFTPmip calls $2 *** FLOP *** [Ts Qd 8h] axelf82 has 15 seconds left to act axelf82 bets $4 Max1956 stands up ihateFTPmip calls $4 *** TURN *** [Ts Qd 8h] [2c] beeroney sits down beeroney adds $40 axelf82 has 15 seconds left to act axelf82 bets $11 ihateFTPmip calls $11 *** RIVER *** [Ts Qd 8h 2c] [8s] axelf82 checks ihateFTPmip bets $20 axelf82 has 15 seconds left to act axelf82 folds Uncalled bet of $20 returned to ihateFTPmip ihateFTPmip mucks ihateFTPmip wins the pot ($34.20) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $36 | Rake $1.80 Board: [Ts Qd 8h 2c 8s] Seat 1: Max1956 is sitting out Seat 2: willett1981 didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: PrimeFknTime (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: axelf82 (small blind) folded on the River Seat 5: ihateFTPmip (big blind) collected ($34.20), mucked Seat 6: Woolworths didn't bet (folded) |
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Re: easy river fold vs. unknowen?
I think I pay him off here... I would expect a set to put in at least a small raise on the flop here to see where they stand. I wouldn't be surprised to see villain flip up something along the lines of KJQx, where they have the busted str8 draw and a pair throughout.
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Re: easy river fold vs. unknowen?
there isn't much in the way of missed draws given you have an A a K and a J in your hand. If I was playing, I would pay him off in this spot, but when I get to give advice from outside the game, I think I can tell you to fold.
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Re: easy river fold vs. unknowen?
i think there are a few lines one can take with hero's hand. i dont like it but a river call is a must considering the way villan played his hand. the only logical hand i see here beating hero is q 8 or T 8.
i'm going to say something that i know people wont agree with but thats fine. i check the turn and fold to a turn bet. the pot is small and this hand isnt very motivating to me. if i check call and hit on river, do i get rewarded? villan might have same draw as me. idk, this hand and situation being out of position doesnt seem very rewarding. flame away if you like but i dont come from the school of never giving up on a hand like i see alot of others do. i'll give up a few finger tips to save the arm and nail someone in better spots and keep my game in control. i only say this referring to another possible option to the hand. i have no problem with someone who wants to fire away with this hand and they are probably more right about it than my secondary option. i just hate to get too involved in hands that end up forcing me to pay off to q 8 or T 8 or pocket jacks........and i seen these ugly scenarios many times. true, you could also be getting paid off on the river by a busted draw too but whatever........i get nitty sometimes i guess. sorry, not trying to talk about myself, just merely giving another option to the play of this hand. right or wrong, we all learn from everyone. i like to keep an open mind. |
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Re: easy river fold vs. unknowen?
i think he has J9 here a lot of the time and he is just valute-betting it
against unknown i'd fold it on turn and def on river |
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Re: easy river fold vs. unknowen?
I think if he Heros beat he will shown here more often a boat than a straight.
Hero must win the showdown in only 27% and with villain calling down on flop and turn and after Hero checks the river betting out, I think Hero wins the showdown more frequently than the 27%. |
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Re: easy river fold vs. unknowen?
that's an insta call 100% of the time.
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