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Flop situation
This is a somewhat tight-passive table for 6-max. UTG is very loose (70+ VPIP) and very passive, and Button is slightly loose and passive (30/7). SB has LAG stats preflop (42/27), but I haven't gotten much of a postflop read on him yet. He hasn't gone to showdown too often, but after only 30 hands, there's not too much information that can be drawn from that.
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero... |
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Re: Flop situation
With 2 overs a backdoor flush draw and gutshot straight and 2 passive players left to act I would see the turn. The 8 is a dirty overcard imo. It puts 4 to a straight on the board. 5:1 on this board. FWIW I'm fairly tight postflop and don't go far enough with hands. I'm curious if others think this would be a good spot to see the turn for 1 bet.
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Re: Flop situation
relative position is the real killer for me in this hand. But if you don't expect to be raised then I may make the peel here.
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Re: Flop situation
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relative position is the real killer for me in this hand. But if you don't expect to be raised then I may make the peel here. [/ QUOTE ] I haven't read the rest of the responses but my initial thinking was in the neighborhood of 8 outs, 4 for the gutshot, 1.5 for the bdfd, 1.5 for the T hi bdsd and 1 for the overcards. Thats about 5:1 for the draws. We're being offered 5:1 immediate pot odds and feeling pretty good about getting 7:1. If button does raise sb and utg will probably come along so we end up at 10:2 or 5:1 and still getting odds to draw. In real life I'd fold on the flop cause i can't think that far ahead. |
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Re: Flop situation
In such a amall pot with players still to act behind me I think I fold this. If the pot had been raised pre-flop, I would raise.
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Re: Flop situation
I went ahead with a peel. I figure that I've got 4 gutshot outs, about 1 backdoor flush out, and probably a solid 4 overcard outs. Even though my position is somewhat bad with two players behind me, it's not too bad because I don't expect to get raised often by those players. 5:1 with potential loose-passive callers behind me and 9ish outs and it's worth taking a peek at the turn.
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, Button folds. Turn: (3.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero... |
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Re: Flop situation
yuck prolly not the best turn, the only thing I can think of is maybe b/f.
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Re: Flop situation
Ugh! One of the reasons that I would have folded the flop. Is it +EV to bet here when the pot is only 3.5 BBs? Before betting you have to know what to do if UTG raises or SB check raises. I guess I bet and get ready to fold to any aggression on the basis that the pot size does not justify calling a raise. If UTG raises, I doubt if he will be bluffing given your read. Whether SB could bluff check raise is an unknown at present, but probably not in a pot this small.
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#9
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Re: Flop situation
raise the flop.
as played bet the turn. |
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Re: Flop situation
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raise the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I thought about that, but I didn't think there was enough in the pot to make it an expensive play. I'm happy to peel and fold the turn UI. |
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