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Checkraised on turn by TAG
Villain is a TAG. 25/18/3.1 over 891 hands.
PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (3.16 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero... I folded the turn, but now I'm wondering about my play. Haha, no, but seriously, calldown or 3bet? |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
I call it down. I don't think you need to 3bet the turn. If your good he's still going to bet the river and you can collect another bet there.
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
3bet, and the idea of calling here and raising the river will come up later in the thread.
basically his range is Qx a vast majority of the time. most tags know to fast play flops like this with A3s or 66 because you will make more bets typically and you'll always make the other guy showdown just about any utg raising hand. |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
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3bet, and the idea of calling here and raising the river will come up later in the thread. [/ QUOTE ] holla |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
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[ QUOTE ] 3bet, and the idea of calling here and raising the river will come up later in the thread. [/ QUOTE ] holla [/ QUOTE ] Bah Miles, no fair. You took both lines. |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
If you just call the turn, you'll almost definitely get a river bet from hands that would fold the turn, like Ax and some PPs. When you're behind, you'll also usually save less, since people are, in general, less likely to raise the river than the turn...
Ahhh, [censored] it. miles nailed it. Nothing to see here. |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
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Ahhh, [censored] it. miles nailed it. Nothing to see here. [/ QUOTE ] Haha, yeah I was going to suggest call then river raise but miles pretty much said it all. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] basically his range is Qx a vast majority of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Why's he calling the flop with Qx? [/ QUOTE ] Overs. |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
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basically his range is Qx a vast majority of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Why's he calling the flop with Qx? |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
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[ QUOTE ] basically his range is Qx a vast majority of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Why's he calling the flop with Qx? [/ QUOTE ] Because the flop is 633 edit to say you can't just defend your blind and then c/f every time you miss, and if you're going to peel a flop, this one is as any when it comes to having almost no chance of hitting you. Plus his IO are pretty good if he sees you has the SD monkey type. |
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Re: Checkraised on turn by TAG
I am not sure that I agree with a 3-bet. We're basically attacking semi-bluffs and pair + flush draws. Weaker queens should get the point (they have very few outs and need to go away), as should any other hand besides trips, boats, or flush draws. By 3-betting, we seem to be counting on some pretty bad play from villain.
So what's the plan if we get capped? A fold seems almost mandatory. What is the plan if we take the call turn/raise river line? I assume we have to abort if a flush card hits, and simply call. Once again, I think we have to seriously consider a fold on the river if villain 3-bets when the flush card doesn't fall. So... to those of you who want to put extra bets in, how do you plan to follow up? |
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