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So here\'s a question (LC?)
There's a player in my DB who is 96/14/.51, with a wtsd of 34 and a w$sd of 60. So he plays every hand, shows down a third of the hands that are dealt, and wins most of them. He is up a fair amount in my DB, over 170 hands. 3 questions:
1. How many hands would you need to have to be pretty sure that there was something screwy going on? 2. If you knew that his only advantage was that he could see everyone else's hole cards in addition to his own, could you get it so that you had an advantage? 3. If you knew that his only advantage was that he could see what the board would be before the hand, could you get it so that you had an advantage? |
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
What.
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
RIGGED
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
1. dunno, a lot
2. no, unless he has no idea what to do with the information. 3. no. he knows preflop what his hand is going to be after the river. he gets to capitalize preflop, flop, and turn for his final made hands. he has a sickening edge being able to do this. |
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
THIS IS A THINLY DISGUISED POKER IS RIGGED POST
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
Man, yeah, 170 hands, that's quite a bit. definitely probably rigged. I think anything after 100 hands is probably suspect amirite.
also, uh, I think the answer to two and three are yes, you could beat him up and take his money |
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
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Plays 96% of hands, how can he win 60% of showdowns? I thought that looked so weird. Sure, 170 hands, but I would figure that number would converge very quickly for someone who plays every hand. |
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Plays 96% of hands, how can he win 60% of showdowns? I thought that looked so weird. Sure, 170 hands, but I would figure that number would converge very quickly for someone who plays every hand. [/ QUOTE ] You do not understand variance or convergence. Go play more. That's how we all know this is nonsense and you don't. |
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Plays 96% of hands, how can he win 60% of showdowns? I thought that looked so weird. Sure, 170 hands, but I would figure that number would converge very quickly for someone who plays every hand. [/ QUOTE ] You do not understand variance or convergence. Go play more. That's how we all know this is nonsense and you don't. [/ QUOTE ] Ay yi yi, I understand variance and convergence, I was just wondering what number of hands it would take for something like a wtsd/w$sd combination with a vpip of 96% to reach a believable level. I mean obviously it's not sustainable, but I'd be shocked if it didn't go away after 10k hands even. 50k for a player that bad seems huge. I know a poor player can be a winner over a large number of hands. But I was thinking that this player was SO bad that his true winrate couldn't be as high as it is for even a relatively small sample. The ? was a typo. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
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Re: So here\'s a question (LC?)
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1. How many hands would you need to have to be pretty sure that there was something screwy going on? [/ QUOTE ] I'd say 50K for W$SD [ QUOTE ] 2. If you knew that his only advantage was that he could see everyone else's hole cards in addition to his own, could you get it so that you had an advantage? [/ QUOTE ] No [ QUOTE ] 3. If you knew that his only advantage was that he could see what the board would be before the hand, could you get it so that you had an advantage? [/ QUOTE ] well obviously he won't see every flop if he know what was coming. This is a pretty pointless discussion in general. I love "LC?" What exactly is the question? |
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