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Old 04-27-2006, 12:26 AM
wpr101 wpr101 is offline
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Default Is this a good push with overs + draw? Stars $55 rebuy

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 with t25 antes (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t12474)
Hero (t10042)
MP1 (t1925)
MP2 (t15145)
MP3 (t5450)
CO (t3451)
Button (t6929)
SB (t11889)
BB (t15540)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t600, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t600, <font color="red">SB raises to t1600</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls t1000, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, Button calls t1000

Flop: (t5925) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t2000</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t8417 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:32 AM
Rickyroodido Rickyroodido is offline
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Default Re: Is this a good push with overs + draw? Stars $55 rebuy

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Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>

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Yes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Is this a good push with overs + draw? Stars $55 rebuy

Nice, you have enough chips that it can hurt his stack if he calls, he has enough so he can fold. Plus you have the flush outs. I suspect he'll call but I reckon the chances of buying the pot now + the chance of winning a showdown are well worth it.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:40 AM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: Is this a good push with overs + draw? Stars $55 rebuy

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Old 04-27-2006, 03:10 AM
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I thought it was still fairly deep stacked and didn't want to gamble here. Should I be?
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Is this a good push with overs + draw? Stars $55 rebuy

You aren't necessarily gambling; you are a strong favorite against most players reraise range here.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:32 AM
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You aren't necessarily gambling; you are a strong favorite against most players reraise range here.

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Really?
What is his range? To me it is JJ+,AK and maybe AQ.
You are only a favorite against AQ, and a big underdog if he has AA or KK.
To me, the fact that SB didn't push means that he has a good hand, because if he wanted to make a play with something like a small pair, he would have pushed. Am i wrong here?
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:37 AM
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

66,779,856 games 0.157 secs 425,349,401 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 47.4718 % 36.38% 11.09% { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 52.5282 % 41.44% 11.09% { AhKh }


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This + FE = ++++++++EV
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:30 AM
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I love pushing preflop here. Plenty of overlay to race (and you're probably racing against his reraising range) + you might get JJ- to fold to your 3-bet.

By the time it gets back to you the pot is more than a third of your stack. So there's clear value in isolating out the two callers and ensuring a heads up pot, even if it's probably a race.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:54 AM
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I thought it was still fairly deep stacked and didn't want to gamble here....

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But nano seconds later when the flop came, you were willing to gamble even though you didn't hit (bar a draw)?

I push preflop too but I also push the flop as you did
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