Terrible overplay of QQ?

Mr. Curious · #1 04-20-2006, 05:05 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($395.52)
BB ($235)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($115.42)
UTG+2 ($591.57)
MP1 ($182.10)
MP2 ($73.45)
MP3 ($61)
CO ($173.51)
Button ($197)

Villian is LAG: 40/10/1.5. Seemed fairly solid post flop.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $2, 3 folds, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) raises to $15, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls $14, CO calls $14, Button folds.

Flop: ($54) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $45, UTG+2 folds, CO calls $45.

Turn: ($144) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero puts UTG+2 All-in $122...

Rman · #2 04-20-2006, 05:24 AM

Hero ($395.52)
UTG+2 ($591.57)

Turn: ($144) A (2 players)
Hero puts UTG+2 All-in $122...

??

Mr. Curious · #3 04-20-2006, 11:29 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($395.52)
BB ($235)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($115.42)
UTG+2 ($591.57)
MP1 ($182.10)
MP2 ($73.45)
MP3 ($61)
CO ($173.51)
Button ($197)

Villian is LAG: 40/10/1.5. Seemed fairly solid post flop.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $2, 3 folds, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) raises to $15, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls $14, CO calls $14, Button folds.

Flop: ($54) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $45, UTG+2 folds, CO calls $45.

Turn: ($144) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero puts CO All-in $122...

FMP

effinA · #4 04-20-2006, 11:40 AM

normally i would say yes...overplayed, but with this shortie donk, i dont think its that bad....cause i see him callin u with almost any T.....whats ur image at this table....any stats on CO

all in all [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], i dont mind the turn play....

Mr. Curious · #5 04-20-2006, 11:58 AM

Villian is LAG: 40/10/1.5. Seemed fairly solid post flop.

My image should be TAG, though maybe a little loose preflop because I had been running hot. I think it was 22/15/7 at the table.

I think the problem with my push is that I clearly do not have a flush (unless it is a super small one), so the question then becomes: what calls the turn all-in that I am ahead of?

Triumph36 · #6 04-20-2006, 12:14 PM

Nothing. You're either bluffing with the best hand, or you're behind. The only things that might call which are behind are K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T or J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T, as I don't think a LAG gets away from those.

Karak567 · #7 04-20-2006, 12:16 PM

If he is a true super LAG I don't mind a check/call all-in here, induce the bluff from nothing.

I don't see any hands you beat calling, but I see hands you beat bluffing.

effinA · #8 04-20-2006, 12:17 PM

i dont think ur ahead of many hands that he call with.....now that i really think about it, acutually im not sure a call is the right play.....cause i dont see villain calling with kt....maybe with the k-spades...
but there are hands that he could call with that you could still draw out on.....so i guess this is a terrible semi-bluff at best....