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Old 04-12-2006, 01:37 PM
CallYNotRaise06 CallYNotRaise06 is offline
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Default Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

im sure ill get some flack for this....

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $132.95
UTG+1: $73.60
Hero: $95
Button: $180.05
SB: $204
BB: $216.60

<font color="red"> utg is 46/7/4.14 shes been passive preflop, but overly aggressive post flop. she floats alot.</font>

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $20</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="red">min raises for her are generally bluffs, trying to pick off a missed AK and such. so i already decided i was pushing the turn when i called here. If i felt this was a play, should i just 3 bet to 60 and fold to a push? She hasnt min raised with a strong hand all night, so im about 90% sure this is a bluff. </font>

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($50.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $70.5</font>, UTG calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] ($191.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $191.5)


Results:
Final pot: $191.5
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:39 PM
ChipStorm ChipStorm is offline
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

Standard.
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

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really, I know villian is lag, but what hands are we hoping for here? a flush draw?
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

nice catch
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

I suck at playing back against this type of player when the board is so draw heavy. Thoughts on this, Chip, or anyone else?
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

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really, I know villian is lag, but what hands are we hoping for here? a flush draw?

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I was kidding. Villain checkraised the flop. I'm may be (am) a full-ring tightie, but when villain checkraises with that board, me and my underpair are packing it in in a big hurry.
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

Whe you get called on the turn, what did you think of your re-steal bluff?

I like calling this flop because, we have 4:1 immediate pot odds and 3 clean str8 outs and 2 outs to a set. With $80 more available if you hit thats ~13:1 implied odds to catch you long shot.

I probably give up on the turn unless my read is uber good that she will fold. I hate bluffing at these stakes. Hope the 8 was enough for you. My guess is she had QT or QJ and turned two pair.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

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I was kidding. Villain checkraised the flop. I'm may be (am) a full-ring tightie, but when villain checkraises with that board, me and my underpair are packing it in in a big hurry.

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lol, I thought maybe I was just weak/tight.

So you fold to the flop checkraise. I actually didn't think the flop play was too bad, but I think I fold the turn.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

Against a lagtard, this is not the spot I would pick to make my stand.

If I was confident I was going to get raised with a jack or ten or air, I would check behind.

Im waiting for a better flop, before I stick to my guns.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Ok last hand of the day. this one is ugly.

WTF? What do you beat on the turn?

You called the flop because you suspect she has overcards (which is an extremely low range), but on the turn you can't beat any of these possibilities.

NONE of your outs are clean. Your set outs are a 4 liner to a straight, and your straight outs fills a (very) common draw (KQ). Fine, if you make your stand on the flop, but be able to re-evaluate on the turn/river.
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