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Old 02-02-2007, 07:39 PM
nextgenneo nextgenneo is offline
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Default Standard JJ overpair situation

No stats on this player, honest. No other reads which is annoying because this is very read dependent. I've been playing 19/15 on the table but I dont think he's been around long enough to realize

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $679.30
UTG+1: $520
CO: $451.80
Button: $495.50
SB: $396
Hero: $399.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $40</font>, UTG+1 folds, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($90, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $80</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $455.5</font>, Hero ???
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

fold fast
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:20 PM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

i really can't see any and hero beats that shoves here
if he is new to the table i don't think he will semibluff or make a move very often here if he knows what he is doing
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

hero "beats" diamonds. Like akdd. But yeah, not very likely, and even if you're up against it youre flipping most of the time. So either flip or dead(smaaall chance of bluff I guess, but I doubt it), just fold.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:29 PM
Fight Club Fight Club is offline
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

What are you all putting him on, a slowplayed big pair? Fold though b/c when its a draw we're still only slight favorite.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:35 PM
Morrek Morrek is offline
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

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What are you all putting him on, a slowplayed big pair?

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yeah that's what it looks like
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

I think this is a slow played big pair very rarely
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:57 PM
Erik W Erik W is offline
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

You need to put in another 280 to win 800.
That makes it 35% for break even.

It is very player dependent as you say.
He must very much suspect that it is likely you are on overs and still he pushes. If it is a player who likes to push good flush draws with an A in I'd call.

If it was not a flush draw on board I'd fold most of the times.

He might have a slowplayed AA,KK.
I'd be surprised if he played a made set like that.
A smaller raise would be much better.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

$8 pf raise on 6 max table? Smells like a big pair....
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Standard JJ overpair situation

I think this is a set or two overcards with diamonds like always. Plus the occasional tricky played overpair thrown in there.... fold.
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