PS 6.5: two pair and the flush comes

[Kibby]

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1420)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1480)
MP2 (t1650)
MP3 (t1490)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1510)
SB (t1480)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t60, MP2 calls t60, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t310) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t280</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t280, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>

Turn: (t870) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

[K䲰䮥n]

Fold PF.

As played check/call turn, check/call non-spade river?

[ElProducto]

First off, I don't call K7s here against a 3x raise and all those callers. You will rarely make the flush, which I assume you are looking for, and more often you will end up with flush draws where you will just leak off chips. These are the first levels, let it go. Rarely is K7s going to earn you any chips here, and more likely it will lead you to crappy situations like this.

As played, hmm. He will almost assuredly bet at you if you check, so I think you have to bet again here. What do you do if he reraises? Fold, probably. The problem is that you and him have equal stacks and you still have plenty of BBs since it's so early. You don't need to risk it all on a very flimsy two pair.

And I disagree with a c/c, mostly because I HATE calling in general wtih made hands. You know nothing about his hand. Yours isn't getting any better. If he bets, it's going to be most of his and your stacks, and the money is going in on the river. Do you want to play those odds and call? I don't, not in the first level.

[Burno]

Fold preflop. Calling here is a leak.


Check the flop, and then shove AI most of the time, depending on the action. 5 way flop with this texture will get bet(and calls) a very high % of the time. The problem with leading the flop is the very one you encountered, the turn is unfavorable, we're OOP, and the pot is half our stack.


As played, you are beaten here an awful lot, and if not, need to get AI here.

I'd check-fold here an awful lot, though occasionally I'd try gaybet of like 123 on each street to see if he'd let me see showdown.

[Pudge714]

Fold preflop.
Check shove flop.
Gay bet turn.

[scrilla]

I would fold pre first.

As played I would go ahead and make a standard raise here...On this kind of flop he is raising you with a lot and might not have a flush. It kind of depends on reads but I shut down if he smooth calls again but would usually call if he shoves. I dunno...probably dumbest line ever.

Scrilla

[King Car]

You have to be able to let K7 go pre-flop.

On the flop, I like a c/r all-in. This board probably hit one+ villains, and it is likely that one will lead at the pot.

As played, Im probably going to bet/fold the turn. We are only beating a few pair hands and air.

I think what I'm mainly trying to do here is control the size of the pot and show my hand down.

[morgan180]

zomg fold preflop.

[Kibby]

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zomg fold preflop.

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Aight, fine fine, I'm stopping with these hands. . . the pot odds seemed so nice with two suited cards but apparently there is major consensus here and its not supporting my calling.

Thank you all. Leak plugged.

[Kibby]

One more question and sorry for bumping this again. . .

What kind of hands do people consider acceptable to call with in a situation like this (6+:1 pot odds from the SB/BB)? Any pair I'm sure. Axs? Suited connecters? Maybe 65s+? What about K9s?