Strong Enough

[TStoneMBD]

UTG raise is 65/41/2.6 attsb 65 MANIAC. coldcapper is 40/18/2.0 117 hands. dont know how light his capping range is here but everyone is isolating this maniac and ive been involved with a million pots with him 3betting his raises. other than stats i dont know anything about the coldcapper but the table dynamics lead me to guess his capping range here is 99+, AJs+.


Hero is MP with AJdd 6max

UTG raises, I 3bet, CO caps, UTG calls, I call.

Flop is 228d

2 checks, CO bets, 2 calls

Turn is 2d

2 checks, CO bets, 2 calls

[Spy Dog]

Impossible to say when you ahve a maniac messing up the table dynamics. If it's not correct, I'd say calling can't be far from wrong. At least you have 1 out to the nuts. Seriously though, you probably have 6-7ish outs here. I'd be more inclined to fold if I wasn't closing out the betting.

If the river bricks, do you call if UTG folds?

[TStoneMBD]

no i definitely wasnt calling a river bet

[Spy Dog]

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no i definitely wasnt calling a river bet

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What are you doing on the following rivers if Maniac folds:

1) 2
2) Diamond
3) J
4) A

What are you doing on the following rivers if Maniac calls:

1a) 2
2a) Diamond
3a) J
4a) A


What are you doing on the following rivers if Maniac raises:

1b) 2
2b) Diamond
3b) J
4b) A

[TStoneMBD]

1) bet out
2) checkcall
3) checkcall
4) bet out

1a) bet out
2a) fold
3a) call
4a) bet out

1b) 3bet obv
2b) fold
3b) call
4b) 3bet obv

[DeathDonkey]

I'd bet if I made the flush or a Jack even. If you call here you pretty much have to since you are saying those are outs a decent amount of the time. If you check/call I think you always lose because he isn't going to bet again with worse but if you bet out he may call with worse. Check/calling a rivered flush or Jack is very bad IMO when compared to betting.

-DeathDonkey

[TStoneMBD]

you dont think there is any fear of a bluffraise in a pot this big? cc cc donk clearly says i hate my hand and am probably folding to a raise. i also think if a jack hits TT or 99 might definitely bet. i really dont see AK calling a bet on this river with a player behind him and someone betting into 2 players.

[DeathDonkey]

If the jack hits its the closest because yeah he might value bet a worse hand for you. But the flush is an easy bet IMO. I don't really think you will get bluff raised ever, but I don't pay off potential river bluff raises much so maybe I'm getting bluff raised left and right and just don't know it. I don't see AK calling either if you make the flush but if you make the Jack I see any pair calling.

-DeathDonkey