Nut straight with a big redraw... how to proceed 5/10

[$en$ored] · #1 03-12-2006, 03:43 PM

5/10 4-handed, few hands in you get dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button. You raise to $35. Both SB(3.5k) and BB($700) call.

Flop comes J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Everyone checks.

Turn comes Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], giving you the nut straight along with a redraw for the K-high flush/straight flush. SB leads for $25 into a $105 pot, BB calls, action's on you. What's your play? You have a full stack, no reads on either opponent but you assume SB to be at least decent (or very lucky in running up a 3.5k stack) and BB to be a calling station (loose-passive play).

captZEEbo · #2 03-12-2006, 03:53 PM

allin no matter how deep.

creedofhubris · #3 03-12-2006, 04:26 PM

No one with a king is folding, and you have solid +EV if you get a caller. Puuuush.

KRANTZ · #4 03-12-2006, 04:41 PM

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Niwa · #5 03-12-2006, 05:27 PM

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BluffTHIS! · #6 03-12-2006, 06:01 PM

Although as noted by others, you would welcome getting allin with a freeroll against another straight, let alone against a worse hand, a player assumed to be decent is not going to call a push over a $25 bet into a $105 pot since he would be in fact leary of being freerolled on. So you definately want to build a bigger pot here, but you also don't want to run off all your customers. So the better play is to raise to maybe like $250 and hope one of them pushes over in response. 3 handed you are running the risk of 2 calls and a player with a set or 2 pair filling on the river, but that is a risk worth taking in order to build a bigger pot while not running off both of them. Of course if you had a read they would go broke in a small pot while being freerolled on then you would indeed push, but good players won't go for it.

Spladle · #7 03-12-2006, 06:19 PM

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[$en$ored] · #8 03-12-2006, 07:25 PM

I see. Thanks for your well thought-out reply.

JaBlue · #9 03-12-2006, 07:48 PM

On the flip side, pushing if you have the lone K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is very good for this reason as well

creedofhubris · #10 03-12-2006, 10:43 PM

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Although as noted by others, you would welcome getting allin with a freeroll against another straight, let alone against a worse hand, a player assumed to be decent is not going to call a push over a $25 bet into a $105 pot since he would be in fact leary of being freerolled on. So you definately want to build a bigger pot here, but you also don't want to run off all your customers. So the better play is to raise to maybe like $250 and hope one of them pushes over in response. 3 handed you are running the risk of 2 calls and a player with a set or 2 pair filling on the river, but that is a risk worth taking in order to build a bigger pot while not running off both of them. Of course if you had a read they would go broke in a small pot while being freerolled on then you would indeed push, but good players won't go for it.

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In my experience there's only about 5-10% of players who would even consider the freeroll before gladly tossing all their money in the middle with the nuts.