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Old 11-13-2007, 09:08 AM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default NL100 - bottom 2pair, coordinated board, facing bet/shove, raised pot

Villain in this hand is 32/14/4 over 260 hands. No notes. Although recently on another table, he got all in preflop w/ AQs for 100bbs, granted, it was button vs bb steal situation vs an even bigger donk.

Is this totally standard to be getting it in here? He has pair+fd often enough? Sometimes even just a lone J? One of those situations, where its easy for him to put me on a FD and stack off w/ a weak hand and where I can put him on a FD and stack off w/ a semi decent hand. Or do I just not know when to find folds.

Did my flop raise size commit me to the pot?

Sorry if this is standard.


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $166.30
UTG+2: $95.50
MP1: $111.55
MP2: $22
CO: $100
Hero (BTN): $122.20
SB: $126.50
BB: $61.35
UTG: $41.85

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
5 folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4, CO calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $9</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36</font>, <font color="red"> CO raises to $86 and is All-In</font>,

Equity wise, we are not exactly in great shape vs a hand liek QdJd or JdTd. We really have to be waiting his range to just naked FD's and just non FD pair of Js to make this call?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:13 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 - bottom 2pair, coordinated board, facing bet/shove, raised pot

Once you raise you are committed.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:20 AM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: NL100 - bottom 2pair, coordinated board, facing bet/shove, raised pot

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Once you raise you are committed.

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Would you ever advocate just flatting this flop?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:30 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 - bottom 2pair, coordinated board, facing bet/shove, raised pot

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Once you raise you are committed.

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Would you ever advocate just flatting this flop?

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I think it's fine to flat-call sometimes but my default is raise.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - bottom 2pair, coordinated board, facing bet/shove, raised

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Once you raise you are committed.

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Would you ever advocate just flatting this flop?

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I think it's fine to flat-call sometimes but my default is raise.

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agree. You have blockers vs. the only sets he can have. Also, 2 pair is pretty unlikely. I guess he can have a straight, but you still have outs and he doesn't always have one. Some type of combo draw is definitely his most likely hand here.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:47 PM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: NL100 - bottom 2pair, coordinated board, facing bet/shove, raised

This is fine. Villain rarely has you beat here. It's 9T, J8s or you win.
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