PS $5: Flop Decisions against three opponents.

[SunKidDance]

The Situation
3000 starting chips, third level, blinds t25/t50, ca. 1500 players left, 28th hand.

Reads on villains
Villain1 was definitely a calling station. He called virtually with everything: Underpairs, small pairs, two overcards (VPIP 40%, Preflop raise 14%).
Villain2 was tight-passive (VPIP 23%, Preflop raise 14%).

The Table
Button (t5616)
<font color="#C00000">SB :villain2(t2800)</font>
BB (t5950)
UTG (t4100)
UTG+1 (t3635)
MP1 (t4778)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 :villain1 (t860)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t2266)</font>
CO (t3115)

The Action on the Table so far
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 villain1 raises to t200</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t200, SB villain2 calls t175, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t850) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
villain2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">villain1 bets t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">, Hero to act.</font>

The Question
What would you do now and why?

SKD

[sapsuckah]

Fold preflop. Limpaholics typically have real hands when they raise, especially if they're raising 4x. Calling with a weakish A and several players still to act is spewing.

As played, you have to call here with TPTK but you still have no idea where you are in this hand... all the more reason why folding preflop is best.

[deepsquat]

Im folding pf or if hes playing any two look at an iso-raise but hard to do with your stack and a bit early for that imo.

I Push on the flop because I want button to dissapear and Villain1 will be all-in by the river anyway.

I really dont like a flat call on the flop here, you are ahead here most of the time and are giving button very good odds to draw by flat calling such a small flop bet.

[Dunkman]

Umm you look like the station calling with ATo there.

Now that you're here, jam and hope, then kick yourself when he shows you JJ+.

[levAA]

villain raises 25% of his stack preflop and you hold ATo - this is a very easy fold imo.

As played you hit TPTK and with 850 in the pot you are committed - so push - but i think there is a big chance villain 1 has you crushed.

[tomek322]

fold pre
fold flop

[SengioKang]

big hands get $ in slow steps... if they're smart... esp tighter players tiny raises to price you in is a monster. either that or u just outflopped AK.....

you should fold that offsooooooot trash PF...

[SunKidDance]

Hi,
the hand went on as follows:
Hero raises to t1002, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">villain2 raises to t2600</font>, villain1 calls t410 (All-In), Hero to act.

What would you do now?

[/SKD]

[All_In_Olly]

Fold pre flop your hand is too weak and there are 4 to act.

The stat you need to look at for villain 2 is his aggression and % of flops bet.

Given player reads I doubt either has 89, so I put the flop raiser on a flush draw, 88,99, overpair, or 2 overcards. He could also have a set and be protecting it.
Overcards are most likely IMO, so you need to protect your hand and raise all in.

Stack size of MP2 is obv a driving factor, if the flop hit him he's more likely to check hoping for you to bet so he can get it all in.

[Steroid Boy]

[ QUOTE ]
Hi,
the hand went on as follows:
Hero raises to t1002, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">villain2 raises to t2600</font>, villain1 calls t410 (All-In), Hero to act.

What would you do now?

[/SKD]

[/ QUOTE ]

you have to fold but you shoulda folded pre you still have 20bb