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Old 11-05-2007, 10:53 PM
NYTyler NYTyler is offline
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Default Facing retarded all-in with KJ

Caesar's AC, 9 Handed, Live $1/$2 HLHE hand

No reads on villain as of yet but this is a very drawy board. And mind you this is a 1/2 game in Atlantic City.

MP3: $600
Hero: $325

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG Calls $2, 3 Calls, 1 Fold, <font color="red"> Hero Raises to $12 </font>, 3 Folds, UTG Calls $12, 2 Calls, 1 Fold, 1 Call

Flop: ($65) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG Bets $10, 3 Folds, <font color="red"> Hero Raises to $35</font>, UTG Raises $576 all-in, Hero?


Now I don't have too many reads on this guy as I just sat down about 20 minutes or so ago. But this board has quite a few draws and he has not shown any signs of strength so far in this hand. He is UTG and didn't repop preflop and then min-bet the flop. It feels so suspiciously like he is on a draw. Given conditions and locale should I call this here?
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:57 PM
Hipsdontlie69 Hipsdontlie69 is offline
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Default Re: Facing retarded all-in with KJ

I dont think he'll put all his money on a draw, at least pocket 2 here.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Facing retarded all-in with KJ

i dont mind a fold here given stacks.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Facing retarded all-in with KJ

I don't play live, but I can't imagine call this. This looks a lot like a donk playing J8s, 88, or 22.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Facing retarded all-in with KJ

i would put him on AA if hes over 42 yrs old, and im not kidding. id be sighing really hard if i could beat AA, cos i'd have to call and still expect to lose
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Facing retarded all-in with KJ

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i would put him on AA if hes over 42 yrs old, and im not kidding. id be sighing really hard if i could beat AA, cos i'd have to call and still expect to lose

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He was a young guy and as I was thinking he kept looking at me briefly and then looking away. He wasn't an old man. But in AC I find that people always like to min-bet their draws, particularly from early position, and get more money in in case they draw out.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:31 PM
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dont like the flop raise sizing

flat or make it more
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:44 PM
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dont like the flop raise sizing

flat or make it more

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Why and how much would you make it?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Facing retarded all-in with KJ

Because pot is $75 and you are only making it 1/3 pot more. Either raise to 3/4 - full pot or flat it. I would make it 60 i think there if I was going to play.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:02 AM
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Because pot is $75 and you are only making it 1/3 pot more. Either raise to 3/4 - full pot or flat it. I would make it 60 i think there if I was going to play.

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Oh sorry misread it...i thought he was saying pre-flop.
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