Full Tilt, 70$ (200 players): QQ in early position, 3-bet from CO

[Tackleberry]

My girlfriend happened to play the following hand:

Blinds are 50/100, table is 9-handed. She (overall 5th in chips, chipleader at the table with 12k) gets QQ in UTG+1 and makes it 400 to go. All fold, CO (second chipleader at the table with 11k) makes 1200 to go.

=> What to do now? Immediately shove (and scare away medium pairs) oder flat-call and check-raise a flop without K/A?

Any comments are greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Tackleberry.

[BarryLyndon]

Interesting. First of all, I don't shove because you are too deep to do that. You turn QQ into 27o by doing this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Also, in this spot, I really want to know CO's stats. If he's been really terrible, I may 4-bet here because "oh boy, oh boy, JJ" may come for the ride.

Call and C/R the flop without a K or A is probably best.

Barry

[ThePershore]

t300 pf to start with.

Just flat call the raise / check - re-eval most flops, prob c/c at least one barrel on non A/K flops (or c/r), but is kinda read / villian dependent and depends on exactly what the flop is.

[Tackleberry]

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First of all, I don't shove because you are too deep to do that.

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Surely, you´re right - I actually meant a "normal" reraise.

I don´t have reads on Villain because I just sat besides her (playing myself) and she obviously did not notice anything special about him.

Most interesting indeed was the outcome of this hand: my friend mumbled "reraise", I told her to flat-call. So she did. The board came 79Q rainbow, giving my friend top-set on a dry board. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] She checks, Villain bets 1800, she calls. The turn comes T. She bets 4k, Villain shoves. Yeah. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

So she calls - and Villain reveals 86o for the straight!! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] The board doesn´t pairs and my sweetie is down to the last place ... and shouts on me to stop berating her ... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[Tackleberry]

In any case thanks for your answers. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[BarryLyndon]

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First of all, I don't shove because you are too deep to do that.

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Surely, you´re right - I actually meant a "normal" reraise.

I don´t have reads on Villain because I just sat besides her (playing myself) and she obviously did not notice anything special about him.

Most interesting indeed was the outcome of this hand: my friend mumbled "reraise", I told her to flat-call. So she did. The board came 79Q rainbow, giving my friend top-set on a dry board. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] She checks, Villain bets 1800, she calls. The turn comes T. She bets 4k, Villain shoves. Yeah. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

So she calls - and Villain reveals 86o for the straight!! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] The board doesn´t pairs and my sweetie is down to the last place ... and shouts on me to stop berating her ... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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see, you played the hand wrong. Once villain bets 1800, you need to RR AI and hope he folds. Did you appropriately calculate the $EV, cEV, sexytimeEV, nowshespissedEV, wtfEV when helping her here?

Tell her to raise to 300 pf, also.

Barry

[Tackleberry]

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Did you appropriately calculate the $EV, cEV, sexytimeEV, nowshespissedEV, wtfEV when helping her here?

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[ThePershore]

lol ouch.