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Old 11-03-2007, 04:05 PM
mayday4379 mayday4379 is offline
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Default $600 NL Cash Two pair on the river

onluy 10 or so hands in, so reads. villain called me down prevoiusly with mid pair and a draw, so he's not real aggr.

i'm a regular on the site and never seen villain before, so i wouldn't guess he's a tricky/thinking player.

full stacks, not that it matters.
Pot is limped, hero with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop is
8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
hero checks, villain bets $12 hero calls

Turn: Pot $36
4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
check, vilain bets $30, hero calls

River: $95
3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero hits 2 pair and leads for $65. Villain donk raises.

I don't see what villain can be donk raising with except a flush. I wouldn't think he limps 88/TT on the button
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:38 PM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: $600 NL Cash Two pair on the river

This is a fold except if it is a minraise in which case I curse and pay off. I also wouldn't check the flop, I would bet the flop and play aggressive on all streets. I sometimes c/r here too, but early in the match without any history beetween you and a villain, I would bet. Your passive line is not bad either because there is a lot of cards to be afraid of on future streets. But against described villain I prefer a bet because you are not afraid that he will raise you on a draw.

However, the way you played it is a fold.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:25 PM
MasterLJ MasterLJ is offline
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Default Re: $600 NL Cash Two pair on the river

I like c/c infinitely better than leading river. His pay-off hand range is pretty small, KJ+, and you are squeezing out any chance villain bluffs or value bets a worse hand.

As played I call, you're getting like 4 to 1, and unless you have a read that villain only raises/minraises super super strong, this could be worse two pair.

EDIT: Uggg, this really can't be a worse two pair. Imma change my answer to fold.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:11 PM
mayday4379 mayday4379 is offline
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Default Re: $600 NL Cash Two pair on the river

i folded it. i led river just because i didn't want a king checking behind on the river. i feel one of my weaknesses is not capitalizing on better hands.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:21 AM
Scansion Scansion is offline
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Default Re: $600 NL Cash Two pair on the river

Don't get in these situations, find out where you stand earlier. You have a few options including leading the flop or donking the turn, don't wait until the river to do this because you get in a tough spot.
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