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Old 11-01-2007, 01:24 PM
HermannTL HermannTL is offline
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Default OESD: Last position playing checkers

Basic situation, but no reads at all.

Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button, 10-handed, .10/.20
UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players, 6SB)
5 checks, Hero...

It seems like a no-brainer to bet here. I don't know how many will call, some of these tables are very timid. I don't know if someone will c/r, but I would be surprised if someone does. I guess the worst combo is if BB checkraises and the next four fold, but even that gives me 8:2 plus some implied odds. Does this thinking seem reasonable?
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:26 PM
Xylocain Xylocain is offline
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

bet-bet-bet-bet-bet

sorry you got check-raised.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

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I guess the worst combo is if BB checkraises and the next four fold, but even that gives me 8:2 plus some implied odds.

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It actually gives you either 9:1 (stop worrying about things that haven't happened yet) or 10:4 (what card could possibly come on the turn that you'd fold to after bet-calling the flop?).

Beyond that, Xylocain's right.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

there really isnt that much difference in ev imo
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

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bet-bet-bet-bet-bet


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Your flop bet will be for value as you have an equity edge. Your draw will come in about 31.5% of the time by the river and you are contributing about 16.7% of the bets put into the pot against 5 opponents that all call.

Also, your flop bet might buy you a "free card" if you miss your draw on the turn, but are checked to by your opponents.
Then you will have the opportunity to check behind at no further cost to see if you make your straight on the river.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

Playing checkers is such a good idea; so much better than playing poker. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Oh, and I bet here.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

Well, I prefer poker...and in checkers they don't call it "capping."

Yes, I bet. No, I wasn't check-raised. Yes, I took the free card. It was the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:14 PM
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King me! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (That's kind of like "capping" your piece? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Okay. I'm reaching now...)
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: OESD: Last position playing checkers

"If everyone checks to you on the flop and you're willing to call a bet, then bet"
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