Tough Spot with Trips

[shpanko]

Last post of the day promise. Important (turn minraising) villain is like 34/12/1.5 over a few hundred hands. He instacalled the flop and minraised the turn really fast as well. Do I actually fold this?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $273.10
SB: $204.80
BB: $85.85
Hero (UTG): $501.55
MP: $353.70
CO: $245.45

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22, BTN calls $22

Turn: ($88) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $56.85 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $56.85, <font color="red">BTN raises to $113.70</font>, Hero?

[orange]

i can't get away.

[shpanko]

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i can't get away.

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What do we put him on though? I mean the minraise was really quick on the turn, and we know how fish play...

[Somnius]

point taken... still learning, thought I'd give it a shot, feel free to ignore next time...

[shpanko]

don't worry about it, it's always good to explore all options, I think though that on FT with the bet pot button if donks are bluffing they shut down if raised otherwise just pot pot pot.

[Somnius]

sounds value-full...seeing how brutal my reasoning was, I take back my first reply.

[Somnius]

Why not raise flop or turn, understand trip slowplay dynamics but probably would've avoided such a mess.

How is this guy with slowplaying big hands preflop...his line and the action thus far is usually indicative of a big overpair.

Otherwise, I'd probably fold. He's not too aggressive...he waited until the turn to go nuts against someone full potting the preflop raiser who just calls, then pushing turn, raiser again calls...then turn minraise?...man, if he doesn't have A8, he has those 4s...again though, this is a pretty common big overpair slowplay line, how tricky is this guy?

[shpanko]

in my experience it's better to give these donks who like to lead for pot some rope so they can just keep potting their crap, no need to raise this dry board

[thac]

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in my experience it's better to give these donks who like to lead for pot some rope so they can just keep potting their crap, no need to raise this dry board

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Well, everyone took as much rope as they're gonna get, so it's time to shove I think. Our hand is really underrepped I think, so I'm not folding.

Edit for a little more valuable post:

Basically, the only hands that beat us are 89, 8T, A8 and 44. He's gonna think he's ahead of the shortstack's range with like 99 or TT. We look really weak, and he plays way too many hands for me to fold trips.

[Fat Nicky]

really crappy spot, and we very well could be behind a boat or stronger 8s, but this guy is so loose pre-flop and seems pretty bad, so i could never talk myself into folding here as much it feels like we are beat.