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Old 10-29-2007, 08:42 AM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default TT first hand at table!

No reads/stats as first hand at table. Whats my action here?
Incidentally, does everyone re raise here given we are completely in dark over opponents.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $152.75
SB: $27.95
Hero (BB): $50
UTG: $43.85
CO: $83.30

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.75, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.25</font>, UTG folds, BTN calls $5.25, <font color="red">SB raises to $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:53 AM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

With 3 people in the pot preflop and being OOP to 2, I call for setvalue.

As played the fold to 4bet is easy IMO. This guy in the SB wanted to slowplay a monster and sees it isn;t necessary because he gets action already.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

I like the 3bet preflop, because of the dead money in the pot and we can easily shut down ATs+,AJo+ postflop by cbetting a safe flop.

But we got to fold to his 4bet here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:17 AM
Tito Tito is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

Nice 3-bet preflop. Gotta fold to the 4-bet though. I'm curious as to why SB just didn't put it all in?? I guess maybe hoping for a call? I've also seen them do this as a total bluff and then fold when you push them all in but I don't know. I would fold with no reads.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:30 AM
IAGTTAYM IAGTTAYM is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

Well, we need around 34-35% to shove so it's close.
Our 3-bet could easily be a squeeze, so I would probably gamble here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

lol @ preflop, if you're gonna do this do it with 72o. As played fold but I just call preflop, your hand is good but vulnerable and you want to get to sd - bloating the pot is not a very good way to do this, especially given that you are brand new to the table.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:39 AM
Khaos4k Khaos4k is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

[ QUOTE ]
Well, we need around 34-35% to shove so it's close.
Our 3-bet could easily be a squeeze, so I would probably gamble here.

[/ QUOTE ]

The avg villain in the micros has no idea what a squeeze play is.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:26 PM
cubase cubase is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

Grunch.

I shove here. The SB's range is pretty much AK, AQ, AJ, and PP's like 77-99. Occasionally he will have AA/KK or QQ (and if so, take notes), but I've rarely seen it.

With all the dead money in the pot against this range, it's a clear shove.

Hand 0: 53.671% 53.46% 00.21% 461401200 1778850.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 46.329% 46.12% 00.21% 398042316 1778850.00 { QQ+, 99-77, AJs+, AJo+ }

He could have lower PP's as well than 77, I have seen some folks do this with 22-99, but it is usually when they are ultra short on cash. If you have $50 and they have $18 or so, they limp, you raise, they shove, it's almost always 22-TT, AK, AQ, AJ, ATs, and sometimes even Axs.

Note: If the button comes along for the ride, it just makes your shove even better value. He almost always has Ax or a PP smaller than yours if he calls.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:43 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

I'm surprised to see so many people saying just to call preflop. Had you called, 8 other posters would be in here saying to 3 bet lol.

Personally, I like the 3 bet preflop. No one has shown strength and you figure to have the best hand. After BU calls, and SB reraises, I would shove. SB has $28 in his stack and this is a donkey move. His range is huge. With the dead money in the pot, it more than makes up for the times you are behind.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:08 PM
You're No Daisy You're No Daisy is offline
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Default Re: TT first hand at table!

Next time just call the PF raise. I know a lot of people are advocating a 3-bet here and the SB is terrible. But seriously, do we really want to put our whole stack at risk on a coin flip seeing as this is the first hand at the table. It's not a great way to start off your session. As played, fold to the re-raise. It's 40% of your stack.

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