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Old 10-28-2007, 09:18 AM
Donkstar Donkstar is offline
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Default 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision


Villain is "MBOE". He plays pretty tight and the way this hand plays out I do not put him on a str8. Do you check or bet on the river? Do you play the turn any different?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($394)
Hero ($513.60)
CO ($416.05)
Button ($697)
SB ($479)
BB ($400)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T, 9.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $8</font>, CO calls $8, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, SB calls $6, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($28) 5, 7, 9 [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
SB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $16</font>, CO folds, [color=#CC3333]SB raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($108) T [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]SB bets $68</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $156</font>, SB calls $88.

River: ($420) A [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
SB checks
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

dont minraise preflop, shove the river
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:28 AM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

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dont minraise preflop, shove the river

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yeah lol
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

You minraised to 8 preflop. Don't.

I don't like the size of your turn raise, I'd prob bump it to 190, makes this river an even easier shove. But how can you not shove this ever?
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

OK Thanks for the advice guys - was starting to doubt myself - I did shove and walked into a set.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($394)
Hero ($513.60)
CO ($416.05)
Button ($697)
SB ($479)
BB ($400)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $8</font>, CO calls $8, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, SB calls $6, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($28) , , [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
SB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $16</font>, CO folds, [color=#CC3333]SB raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($108) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]SB bets $68</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $156</font>, SB calls $88.

River: ($420) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
SB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $309.6 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $275 (All-In).

Final Pot: $970

Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
SB has 9c 9d (three of a kind, nines).
Hero has Th 9h (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: SB wins $970. Hero wins $34.60. </font>
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

how tight are we talking? i don't think i like any street, and would probably check the river.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

I think you played the turn really poorly against MBOE. He's pretty nitty but throws in random pot pot pot bluffs and stuff so calling the turn seems best to me.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:54 PM
Percussion Percussion is offline
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

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You minraised to 8 preflop. Don't.

I don't like the size of your turn raise, I'd prob bump it to 190, makes this river an even easier shove. But how can you not shove this ever?

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Uhh, what calls this turn and calls this river that we are ahead of?? I don't see villain calling with TT. The only hand I can think of is a retardedly played AQs or something. I am a tighty so I vote check.

Yes raise turn a little harder.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL: Check or Value Bet Decision

Looks like I was right to be confused. There is virtually no consensus in opinion on turn and river decisions....
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