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Old 10-25-2007, 06:01 PM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default 60$ -QQ early vs regular

Villain is a regular multitabler


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CO (t1530)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t80, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t120, Button calls t120.

Flop: (t620) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t450</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t900</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1280</font>, Hero calls t380.

Turn: (t3180) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3180) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3180
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:17 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

if hes a reg he probably knows you're a reg and knows you're lvl 1 utg raising range so id say he has kk/aa here nearly always.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:27 PM
faarcyde faarcyde is offline
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

I fold preflop because it looks like he is suckering you in.

Postflop (if the two and a half times raise is standard for him) the situation is pretty neutral EV in my opinion. Sometimes he has TT, JJ sometimes KK, AA. Flip a coin?
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

Against a reg, his range is at the loosest AA-QQ, AK, with AK being very unlikely if he is good. I would fold pre. As played fold the flop unless u know he could have AK here and will c bet into 3 people, again which is unlikely if he is a good regular (keyword good.)
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

hard to believe he is a good regular with that tiny preflop raise that is giving you/button great odds to call and hit a set.

anyway, i just call the preflop raise and fold to his flop lead. the only thing you can ever beat is JJ. a decent regular is not making that big c-bet vs two opponents with kk/aa. who is the regular?
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

call pre, fold flop, hes oop so we got to use that.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

Am I right that we only call pre to hit a set?
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

yeah set, and well he might have AK so if it goes checking to cheap showdown we can call a river bet maybe.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

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call pre, fold flop, hes oop so we got to use that.

[/ QUOTE ]It is hard to lay down queens... but you must...
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:47 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: 60$ -QQ early vs regular

[ QUOTE ]
hard to believe he is a good regular with that tiny preflop raise that is giving you/button great odds to call and hit a set.

anyway, i just call the preflop raise and fold to his flop lead. the only thing you can ever beat is JJ. a decent regular is not making that big c-bet vs two opponents with kk/aa. who is the regular?

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed on the raise size, if i know a reg is raising utg level 1 my range would be KK/AA for reraises, and it would be bigger than he is making it.

John, i assume you meant to say 'is not making that big cbet vs two opponents WITHOUT KK/AA ?'
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