Blind steal hand in warmup against someone with a dog in their avatar.

gobboboy · #1 10-21-2007, 03:41 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t24699)
UTG (t19560)
UTG+1 (t31150)
MP1 (t48131)
MP2 (t17935)
MP3 (t21722)
CO (t28158)
gobbo (t47520)
SB (t33189)

Preflop: gobbo is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
6 folds, gobbo raises to t3250, SB calls t2650, 1 fold.

Flop: (t6700) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, gobbo checks.

Turn: (t6700) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t4800, gobbo calls t4800.

River: (t16300) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, gobbo bets t39370 (All-In)

Should be noted that I very rarely overbet bluff shove the river.

I timebanked the turn and shoved the river fairly quickly. I've already determined that my turn call was bad since he bet so quickly, but once he checked the river I was fairly positive he had a weak ace.

TheNewf · #2 10-21-2007, 03:48 PM

fact that you rarely overbet shove river is irrelevant. I don't think I like this at all, I'm really fine with just turning the hand into a bluff and betting the flop against most people.

gobboboy · #3 10-21-2007, 03:51 PM

I didn't really mention that for metagame concerns, it's more for saying why I'm inexperienced in situations like this.

TheNewf · #4 10-21-2007, 04:02 PM

OK I never bluff at all so I'm even more clueless.

shaundeeb · #5 10-21-2007, 04:06 PM

I LIKE.

Bakes · #6 10-21-2007, 04:19 PM

i think turn call is kinda brutal, just bet flop you can still acheive the same thing against draws while folding out a ton of hands that beat you

NoahSD · #7 10-21-2007, 04:27 PM

Yeah.. I like a flop bet. It's close tho.

Def fold turn as played.

River is awesome.

Mench · #8 10-21-2007, 05:46 PM

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i think turn call is kinda brutal, just bet flop you can still acheive the same thing against draws while folding out a ton of hands that beat you

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villain isn't folding many hands that hit the flop to a flop bet, but betting flop seems like best place to start in this hand.

As played I like river since I don't see a random making a hero call here, and since your button range should be perceived to be pretty wide I can see him giving you credit.

Hattifnatt · #9 10-21-2007, 05:58 PM

I like all of it.

Todd Terry · #10 10-21-2007, 06:34 PM

I would call with an A here, but I don't have a dog in my avatar, which I guess is the key to the hand. IMO, an overbet into someone who has shown real strength in a hand is likely to be a value bet, an overbet into someone who has not is likely to be a bluff.

Calling the turn in position on draw-heavy boards is the nuts. It's how I bluffed off most of my stack in the Borgata 10K event and the WSOP 5K event. I'd bet less on the river here, 2/3 pot or so, against someone halfway decent, but defer to your expertise on dog avatars.