KJ in 3b pot

Kimpan · #1 10-21-2007, 07:23 PM

I have been active.
should I cbet this?

PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
BB ($200)
UTG ($86.45)
CO ($243.25)
MP ($103.37)
BU ($254.99) (22/11/2.61/25) (949h)
Hero ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, BU raises to $7, Hero raises to $25, 1 folds, BU calls $18.

Flop: ($52) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $37

thac · #2 10-21-2007, 07:25 PM

Depends, would you bet AK/AQ here? I think you have to. I generally wouldn't raise a 22/11 because I'd want someone a bit more aggressive.. but yeah definitely c-bet.

orange · #3 10-21-2007, 08:07 PM

you're stacking off right?

Kimpan · #4 10-21-2007, 08:08 PM

I'm not feeling great about it but I guess I have to.
On the other hand I don't see much we beat if he shoves...
flushdraw?

centgas · #5 10-21-2007, 08:23 PM

What is his range, with a PFR of 11... 99+, AQs+, AKo+ ??
What better hands are we folding out? Likely none
What worse hands are calling? Likely none
How vulnerable is our hand? Q and A are worries, possibly a club.
Balancing.... we would probably bet a lot of other hands in our range here.

Is that a compelling case for betting? Not really. If we are willing to stack off, hows about a check raise? Are we just turning the hand into a bluff?

ikestoys · #6 10-21-2007, 08:23 PM

3betting doesn't seem good against this villain

Kimpan · #7 10-21-2007, 08:32 PM

I don't see how 3betting this is bad, I had been active (24/22) and 22/11 OTB is quite wide.

Nick Royale · #8 10-21-2007, 08:35 PM

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I don't see how 3betting this is bad, I had been active (24/22) and 22/11 OTB is quite wide.

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You being active isn't a good thing in this situation because he'll call lighter preflop and the additional hands he'll call is still crushing your hand. A 22/11 usually doesn't steal alot, that's why he's 22/11.

Kimpan · #9 10-21-2007, 08:46 PM

I kinda messed that up in my head lol, me being active works against me..

He has a Att. TO steal of 25%.
I'm thinking any pair, 9Ts+ Kto+ QJo+, A8o+

Nick Royale · #10 10-21-2007, 08:55 PM

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He has a Att. TO steal of 25%.
I'm thinking any pair, 9Ts+ Kto+ QJo+, A8o+

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That seems about right. Might even add some more Ax combos, at least Axs, and maybe some more suited hands. But I don't find 22/11 being particulary weak vs re-steals in general and since his range is relatively tight I don't really like 3-betting KJs here oop.