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Old 10-16-2007, 02:16 AM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default 100NL mid pp versus steal

Villian is 18/15/1.8 over 1006 hands and steals 25%.
I am 19/16/3.
I dont want to play 88 for set value here, so is 3betting here ok. And do we give up after he calls the cbet?

iPoker No-Limit Texas Hold'em (NL100), $1.00 BB (6 handed) SilverKitty Hand History converter by www.pokeronline.com.ua

SB ($201.05)
Hero($102.4)
MP2 ($60.4)
MP3 ($21.3)
CO ($101.5)
Button($170.05)

SB: Post SB $0.50
Hero: Post BB $1.00

Preflop:
Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MP2 Call $1
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>
Button Raise $5
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>
Hero Raise $15.5
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>
Button Call $11.5

Flop:($34.5) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
Hero Bet $27
Button Call $27

Turn:($88.5) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
Hero Check
Button Check

River:($88.5) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
Hero Check
Button Check


Total pot $85.50 Rake $3.00
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

Postflop looks fine, don't really see a spot to bet again.

What's wrong with playing 88 for set value given that the limper is almost always going to call if you do?
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:31 AM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

I think 88 is a good hand that we can play for more than set value only, but we need the initiative in the hand to do so.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

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I think 88 is a good hand that we can play for more than set value only, but we need the initiative in the hand to do so.

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Eh, it doesn't seem that different from ATC once you 3-bet, honestly, unless you happen to hit a set anyway.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

There's nothing wrong with 3-betting a button steal with 88. Calling is okay too and due to the limper Imight prefer that as buttons range is smaller. Betting flop is good.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

I think it's fine once in a while to 3-bet 88. Though I prefer someone with a bigger ATSB
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

pre-flop is fine IMO. (not saying calling is bad, but to say 3-betting is wrong is false I think).

bet less on the flop. a bet of $20 accomplishes the same thing as $27.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

agreed, i like a flop bet of $20 better.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: 100NL mid pp versus steal

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pre-flop is fine IMO. (not saying calling is bad, but to say 3-betting is wrong is false I think).

bet less on the flop. a bet of $20 accomplishes the same thing as $27.

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