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Old 10-15-2007, 05:35 PM
JBMSweden JBMSweden is offline
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Default Ranges, Isolation and the damn Blinds

Ok.

I am trying to get a grasp of when to isolate limpers and with which hands.

I'll try and explain with an example.
5-handed Limit 3/6.
UTG 40 vpip, pf raise 5, low aggro factor LIMPS
CO folds
Button Hero with K9o
SB LAG
MP TAG

My question is this;

Should I raise with ANY hand that has more than 50% equity vs his range?

Can I go way lower than 50% considering I have position?

How much should I care that BB is a TAG and SB a LAG and that K9o does not play well multiway?

Obviously it depends on his postflop play but I am more interested in the maths regarding these matters...


His range will be (after I have discounted the top 5% hands) 77-44, ATs-A2s, AQo-A3o, KJs-K2s, KQo-K7o, QJs-Q4s, QJo-Q8o, JTs-J7s, JTo-J8o, T9s-T7s, T9o, 98s-97s and 87s.

K9o vs opponents range will have 49,704% equity...

Generally - what guidelines do you use vs opponents vpip/pf raising ranges when 3-betting/calling etc etc...?

I could certainly do with some help on these issues...
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:42 PM
shane88888 shane88888 is offline
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Default Re: Ranges, Isolation and the damn Blinds

Villain doesn't necessarily raise the top 5% of hands; he only raises 5% of hands. You don't know what range of hands he raises.

A lot of these players have bizarre raising standards. They may limp KK but always raise JJ/TT.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:10 PM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default Re: Ranges, Isolation and the damn Blinds

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A lot of these players have bizarre raising standards. They may limp KK but always raise 75s/98o.

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FYP.

To OP, depends somewhat on rake considerations, but K9o is raisy-daisy in that spot if you play well postflop.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:07 PM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: Ranges, Isolation and the damn Blinds

yeah easy raise for me. This is exactly the spot I want to be in. HU with a bad player OOP and a relatively strong hand. He'll usually wake up and get aggressive on the later streets if he flops something or was limping a strong hand, but otherwise I'll be able to play against him very easily (bet when I'm ahead of his range and take free cards and free SDs when I want to).
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Ranges, Isolation and the damn Blinds

With tough loose players in the blinds I dont mind folding here in this rather rake heavy game.

Also. The point others made is very important.

1) These guys dont raise top 5%

2) These guys arent limping top40%-5%. There is a bunch of spots where they fold hands to a raise where they would have limped.

So when a guy has a vpip of 40% he is prolly limping like 60%.
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