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Old 10-14-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($29.05)
MP2 ($13.90)
CO ($21.40)
Button ($66.50)
SB ($52.80)
BB ($15.35)
UTG ($3.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, Button calls $2.50.

Turn: ($10.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5.25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $10.85

I felt this line would do best to get some money out of AK and possibly fold out JJ/QQ. Thoughts on this? Does anyone donk here? It's cheaper for sure, but not as strong as check-raising, and if I donk and it's called, I haven't learned much.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

Did you have a read?
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

I was new to the table and I'd seen villain stack off with AA on a pretty dangerous board. Other than that, nothing really as I was at table for about an orbit.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

at 25NL i have seen a lot of people play this weakish line on the flop with big overpairs probably hoping for some action. I'd put him on AA or KK.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

Yeah I thought the flop bet was really weak and was either AK/AQ looking for a cheap steal or KK/AA looking to keep me around to build a big pot. Also, is this just a c/f on the flop?
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

I think your line is fine here. I play it the same unless I have a read on villain.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

why c/r the flop and not lead out on the turn? certainly the 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] didn't change the strength of your hand in the villains eyes. i'd like to know what you thought villain was putting you on.

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Old 10-15-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

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why c/r the flop and not lead out on the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]Villains range is small and has many more hands that beat us than hands that we beat. I don't particularly like the flop line but I have a hard time coming up with a better one.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

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why c/r the flop and not lead out on the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]Villains range is small and has many more hands that beat us than hands that we beat. I don't particularly like the flop line but I have a hard time coming up with a better one.

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the way it was played, villain is calling $2.50 more into a pot that is now $8.85, close to $9. i'm thinking... i raised preflop and called a reraise, now i have an overpair to the board. shouldn't i lead the flop here - say pot or the $3.50 making the pot just over $7 - and then fold to a raise or if called, c/f the river? i must be missing something here.

btw, great job on the raiders today!

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Old 10-15-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: 25Nl TT on low flop OOP, line?

c/c flop, play poker on the turn, but start by checking again.

c/r isn't that bad. I guess you c/f the turn as played, but i don't like the spot.
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