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Old 10-14-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

villain is 18/11 on 27 hands. unsure of river bet.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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SB: $42
BB: $26.90
UTG: $24.60
UTG+1: $5.15
MP1: $21.75
MP2: $44.60
CO: $25.25
Hero (BTN): $26

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.15</font>, UTG calls $0.90
<font color="blue">standard raise to take down limper/blinds. </font>

Flop: ($2.65) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
<font color="blue">check behind looking for the straight card. </font>

Turn: ($2.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
<font color="blue">i don't like my J since i figure he holds something better than a J to call the pfr, i check behind </font>

River: ($2.65) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.15</font>
<font color="blue">not sure if i like this after looking back. at the time i felt i was good and he might call thinking i would have bet the turn had i flushed. i put him on small to medium pocket pair afterwards, but i hoped he held 2 pair at the time. good value bet here or just another "only a better hand will call" thing? </font>
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Panthro Panthro is offline
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Default Re: NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

Flop is check is OK...I check this flop w/ this type of hand from time to time.

Value bet the turn.

Bet more on the river. Why do you think a river bet is questionable anyways?
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

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Bet more on the river. Why do you think a river bet is questionable anyways?

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looking back at the hand i'm figuring by betting and repping the flush he doesn't call with anything less than a baby flush as i have position on him, which i lose to. had i been first to act, he may have figured my river bet as a bluff. does 2 pr really pay me off here? a set possibly but still there's a flush and straight on the board. at the time i figured it was a good bet, but now i'm not sure. whats he call with to make this a value bet?

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Old 10-14-2007, 02:09 PM
MadMike MadMike is offline
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Default Re: NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

Flop check is fine as a mixup, I'd cbet here a lot though.
After checking the flop, bet the turn.
River is fine. Given the action, 2pr will look you up often.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

if you fold to a river raise its ok
i make it 1.50 on the river
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

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ooking back at the hand i'm figuring by betting and repping the flush he doesn't call with anything less than a baby flush as i have position on him, which i lose to.

[/ QUOTE ] You're not repping a flush by betting the river, you're repping aces up or a straight. If you bet turn + river you're repping a flush and I'd assume most times you have 9Ts and raise the button and get this flop you're betting if you have the flush draw so sometimes I'd discount the flush entirely. Bet slightly more on the river, we dont really expect him to get tricky after two streets checking through and then checking the river.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: NL25: QJo semi-bluff raise OTB, questionable river bet.

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ooking back at the hand i'm figuring by betting and repping the flush he doesn't call with anything less than a baby flush as i have position on him, which i lose to.

[/ QUOTE ] You're not repping a flush by betting the river, you're repping aces up or a straight. If you bet turn + river you're repping a flush and I'd assume most times you have 9Ts and raise the button and get this flop you're betting if you have the flush draw so sometimes I'd discount the flush entirely. Bet slightly more on the river, we dont really expect him to get tricky after two streets checking through and then checking the river.

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thanks chargers. nice explanation. hate to tell you i'm a kc chiefs fan though from way back. but i am backing the bolts today against the ray-duhs. gl

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