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Old 10-12-2007, 08:36 PM
Ranma4703 Ranma4703 is offline
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Default [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

Villian is a multitabler, haven't seen anything crazy from him yet, but I only have been at the table for 4-5 hands
Effective stacks 47$
I raise to 2$ in the c/o with 7c5c (varying my play, I don't always do this)
btn folds, villian calls in sb
Flop comes out:
9c 6c 3d
giving me a double gutter + fd
Villian donks pot into me for 4.50$, I call, because if I raise to 12$, he calls, and the turn blanks I'm in a tough spot.
Turn is the Kc
he checks, I bet 7$ (a little more then 1/2 pot.. I figure he has 2 pair, a set, or was being overly aggressive with a fd and is now slowplaying). He calls. River is the Kh, and he bets around 1/2 pot, 13.75$.
My thoughts on his range: Probably not two pair, because two pair doesn't value bet this river after being counter fitted. I think he either has a high flush, or a set, hoping that I would call with my trips. He could also have been bluffing the flop, caught the king on the turn, and now be value betting his trips. I was pretty lost when he bet here, and I ran out of time while thinking.
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

tl;dr converter plz
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

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tl;dr converter plz

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No converter for this site
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

Typing in :spade: will give you the icon. It will be much easier to read if you format it like the converter yourself.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

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Typing in [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] will give you the icon. It will be much easier to read if you format it like the converter yourself.

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doesnt look like it....looks like [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] to me from your post lolz

and about this hand...its a 1/2 pot bet so u have to call...no value in raising and u have a flush so i dont like folding... could be ak or kq
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

wow...how come it did the spade for me but didnt for u when u typed it in khaos?
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

Is this a situation where you just shove on the flop? Or do you reraise and pray for a raise or fold but no call?
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

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Is this a situation where you just shove on the flop? Or do you reraise and pray for a raise or fold but no call?

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A shove is like 45$ into a 8 dollar pot... I hate shove here, but I'm open for arguments for a shove. I'd go back and edit my post so that it looks pretty, but I can't edit it anymore for some reason.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

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wow...how come it did the spade for me but didnt for u when u typed it in khaos?

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Just above the posting box is an option for "using UBBCode". I changed it to disabled. Good for explaining how to do coded things to people.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: [NL50] Monster draw hits, fold this river?

Well I know shoving is overbetting bigtime, but I thought the idea was that from the flop we're 60% to win, but if we see a blank turn, now we're 30, so we want to get all in while we're ahead rather than have to make a rough decision on the turn. I don't know though, my thinking could be way off.

Maybe we reraise and if we get called, hope to check the turn or, worst case, call a reasonable turn bet?
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