200NL - Top two minraised by TAG

[tbaarslag]

Villain is 30/15/3.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

BB ($232.30)
UTG ($44.75)
MP ($183.50)
CO ($419.45)
Button ($208.90)
Hero ($213.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $6, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($24) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, BB calls $18, UTG folds.

Turn: ($60) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $48</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $96</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>

I shoved fwiw, but what do I realistically beat other than AT?

[tbaarslag]

Bump: villain is now 25/15/3

[SlowRoll]

Tough spot.

Unless you have been very aggressive, have history or such, i think i might be able to find a fold.

But in the heat of the moment, i normally push. Could very well be a mistake.

He might have Ax[h] or so though.

[Alobar]

30/15 is TAG?

I think I fold. I think he plays a set or JT faster on the flop, so that narrows his range, but hes got to be scared of that board to if hes got AT, youve shown a lot of strength. And his min raise looks like its begging to be called. Looks like KQ to me. Tho I guess he could have like KJ or something and be trying to make a move so maybe calling and folding to a river bet is an option.

hmmm...I babbled my way into "I dunno what to do"

[Chicago Twister]

You also potentially beat AK and Ax[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I still don't know what to do tho. If you push does a worse hand call? Well, yeah, maybe. Against AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 98[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you're a 2:1 favorite so that's +EV. I proably ask myself "can he have AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]" answer "yes" then push. Really uncomfortable with my line tho.

[Alobar]

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You also potentially beat AK and Ax[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I still don't know what to do tho. If you push does a worse hand call? Well, yeah, maybe. Against AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 98[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you're a 2:1 favorite so that's +EV. I proably ask myself "can he have AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]" answer "yes" then push. Really uncomfortable with my line tho.

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Wouldnt AKhh or 98hh raise that flop? I Think you are hoping for Axhh, but would that hand raise and risk getting pushed on?

[immesan]

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Wouldnt AKhh or 98hh raise that flop? I Think you are hoping for Axhh, but would that hand raise and risk getting pushed on?

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with tagf 3 hes def raising the flop with those hands...i think ur almost always WB here...but i´ll snap it and make a note

[tbaarslag]

Consensus seems to be: we shove, but actually shouldn't?

[Chicago Twister]

Alobar, I think your'e right. Does that mean we fold the turn? I mean, can you really do that?

konfused...

[phantom_lord]

i think you should fold.